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Ryuuhou Kagiyama
08-07-2014, 10:29 PM
Right now, Devs are advising us to plan our ship compositions ahead of time since we won't be able to use the ships from Operation AL in Operation MI. As far as we know, the event will require 3 fleets:

Light Carrier Mobile Force - Historically consisted of Ryuujou and Junyou
1st Fleet (Kido Butai) - Historically consisted of Akagi, Kaga, Hiryuu, and Souryuu plus some BBs and some others
2nd Fleet (Escort Fleet) - Historically consisted of mainly cruisers and destroyers

Based on that information, let's share what ships we have that can be used for which fleet. Of course, bear in mind everything is subject to change as we get closer to the event.



CVL Task Force


Lv43 Musashi Kai/Lv 73 Verniy


Lv66 Ise Kai/Lv60 Shigure Kai Ni


Lv61 Kinugasa Kai Ni/Lv60 Sendai Kai Ni


Lv88 Chiyoda Kai Ni


Lv8 Ryuujou Kai Ni


Lv97 Kiso Kai Ni





Carrier Fleet
Escort Fleet


Lv30 Akagi
Lv78 Chikuma Kai Ni


Lv76 Kaga Kai
Lv70 Myoukou Kai Ni


Lv83 Hiryuu Kai Ni
Lv65 Haguro Kai Ni


Lv82 Souryuu Kai Ni
Lv61 Jintsuu Kai Ni


Lv92 Haruna Kai Ni
Lv84 Yuudachi Kai Ni


Lv30 Nagato Kai
Lv74 Ayanami Kai Ni





E-6 Fleet


Lv92 Kirishima Kai Ni


Lv75 Kongou Kai Ni


Lv75 Hiei Kai Ni


Lv48 Zuikaku Kai


Lv40 Taihou Kai


Lv98 Kitakami Kai Ni

panda
08-07-2014, 10:32 PM
I think I'll be waiting for a bit more information from the people doing the scouting before figuring out what my final compositions will be, since we've just got hints, but we don't know exact branching rules and requirements for the maps yet, since they've yet to be released.

Ruga-chan
08-07-2014, 10:59 PM
I think that for AL I will go for something like:

Ryuujou Kai Ni - 75
Chitose Kai Ni - 56
Hiyou Kai - 54
Sendai Kai Ni - 63
Isuzu Kai Ni - 66
Kiso Kai Ni - 77/ KTKM Kai Ni - 81

Though, we don't know yet if CLT will be ok for pathing in AL, but it should be I guess.

Dranikos
08-07-2014, 11:08 PM
Mine will probably look something like this (unless more information is forthcoming that changes these plans, obviously)



CVL Force


Lv 77 Ryuujou Kai Ni


Lv 73 Chitose Kai Ni


Lv 73 Chiyoda Kai Ni


Lv 56 Hyuuga Kai


Lv 53 Kitakami Kai Ni


Lv 56 Haguro Kai





Main Carrier Group


Lv 73 Kaga Kai


Lv 78 Hiryuu Kai Ni


Lv 78 Souryuu Kai Ni


Lv 63 Zuikaku Kai


Lv 75 Kirishima Kai Ni


Lv 65 Kiso Kai Ni





Escort Group


Lv 65 Yuudachi Kai Ni


Lv 58 Kongou Kai


Lv 29 Mogami Kai


Lv 52 Ooi Kai Ni


Lv 31 Yukikaze Kai


Lv 49 Sendai Kai




Subject to change without notice due to actual branching rules requiring certain ships, this just just a preliminary "if nothing requires specific ships" layout.

Etrigan
08-07-2014, 11:27 PM
Every other event has required a different setup for each map - I'm going to be really surprised if the Devs set it up so that you use the same 6 ships all the way through AL/MI. Sure, they're asking for 3 full fleets, but I used a LOT more than 18 ships to clear the spring event.

Actually, looking back it may not have been THAT much more (19), but the fleets changed quite a bit from map to map. I didn't keep track of ships, just classes, so I'm estimating - if I only ever used two CAs at the same time, I'm only counting using 2 (not the 6 I may have swapped between due to fatigue/damage/etc). If we're working with set fleets, fatigue will start to be an issue.

HaganeNoKaze
08-07-2014, 11:34 PM
CVL force:

LVL 88 Shouhou Kai
LVL 36 Chitose Kai
LVL 36 Chiyoda Kai
LVL 77 Ise Kai
LVL 71 Kiso Kai Ni
LVL 71 Haguro Kai Ni or LVL 67 Kinugasa Kai Ni or LVL 37 Shoukakou Kai

Carrier Fleet:

LVL 79 Akagi Kai
LVL 72 Soryuu Kai
LVL 59 Kaga Kai
LVL 57 Hiryuu Kai
LVL 90 Kongou Kai Ni
LVL 82 Kitakami Kai Ni


For Support Fleet, reflexion for now, in waiting for more informations with the fact i will miss the first day at least !

oriscus
08-07-2014, 11:36 PM
My first strike force for AL will include Junyou kai (44), Hiyou kai (37), and either Maya kai or Chokai kai (mid-20s). After that, some midrange CL and DD. Maybe Tenryuu kai/Tatsuta kai with 6th des div (30ish)

I'll be somewhat surprised if AL requires BBs or CVs. I wouldn't be surprised at all if branching prohibits their use.

Also if they get locked out, I won't be too sad.

Dranikos
08-07-2014, 11:52 PM
Etrigan One issue with that is they've announced that Midway itself will be a Carrier centric event, there's only 7 Standard Carriers (and 1 of those is so monstrously rare that I question she actually exists). It's likely that this is why they mention an "Escort Fleet" for Midway as well, any MI maps that disallow CVs will / should be tackled by the escort fleet (perhaps, for example, a Night Battle heavy map. Or a Sub Heavy map, since CVs are utterly useless at both).

I think it's more likely, given the split nature of this event and the fact ships sent to AL can't go to MI and vice versa, that fleet composition will be a more broad strokes "A least 3 CVs" "No more than 2 BBs" etc kind of deal. Not requiring a specific layout, but rather just "Bring Carriers" or "Bring the Escort Fleet (No Carriers)"

Woutan
08-07-2014, 11:53 PM
Unless you're part of the teams that will scout the maps to figure out the branching rules, I don't think there's any use in planning out how to distribute our ships among the three fleets right now.

Personally, I'll wait 1 or 2 days until we get better information.

iDuane
08-07-2014, 11:58 PM
Someone is going to get the shaft, and I'm going to make sure it's not me. I don't have enough ships fo dis shit.

Woutan
08-08-2014, 12:06 AM
Someone is going to get the shaft, and I'm going to make sure it's not me. I don't have enough ships fo dis shit.My thoughts exactly. I feel really bad about it though, I wanted to perform recon to contribute back somehow, if just a tiny bit, to the userbase that has helped me before on this game. Buuut, it's not like I have more than a couple prepared ships of each class so yea.

Leyana
08-08-2014, 12:23 AM
I agree with Woutan. Plans never survive contact with the enemy. Though that said... I didn't level Kongou, Haruna, Hiei, Kirishima, Akagi, Kaga, Hiryuu, Soryuu, Kitakami and Ooi for nothing.

oriscus
08-08-2014, 12:26 AM
Leyana
That's why my plans are low level ships I think may have relevance.

So I can figure out WTF is going on before I decided to commit or hold back.

Leyana
08-08-2014, 12:35 AM
oriscus Honestly I haven't really kept up with the dev tweets. My attention has been really divided these few days.

If a low level fleet can do a few of the maps, I'll be even happier.

Banchan
08-08-2014, 12:45 AM
Unless you're part of the teams that will scout the maps to figure out the branching rules, I don't think there's any use in planning out how to distribute our ships among the three fleets right now.

Personally, I'll wait 1 or 2 days until we get better information.

I'll be levelgrinding on 3-2-A for the first week probably while people gather information

Especially considering I just got Kaga from construction yesterday and she's only level 50 or so

Woutan
08-08-2014, 12:49 AM
I'll be levelgrinding on 3-2-A for the first week probably while people gather information

Especially considering I just got Kaga from construction yesterday and she's only level 50 or soSounds like a plan. As far as my girls go, their levels and equipment are alright so I probably won't be doing any sorties other than Orel. I kind of expect MI to be a hell on earth and this time I want to make sure I can perform a full event clear, even if all my resource stockpiles go down to 0.

Leyana
08-08-2014, 12:54 AM
Woutan Now that is dedication.

I can't take letting my resources run down that much.

lunatickoala
08-08-2014, 12:55 AM
I have a decent number of fully modernized ships in the level 35-50 range that I'd be willing to throw at AL but I don't see any particular incentive in being a guinea pig if it's only going to be punished by locking them out of MI so I'm just going to wait until all the rules get figured out instead of charging in.

Etrigan
08-08-2014, 12:56 AM
I think it's more likely, given the split nature of this event and the fact ships sent to AL can't go to MI and vice versa, that fleet composition will be a more broad strokes "A least 3 CVs" "No more than 2 BBs" etc kind of deal. Not requiring a specific layout, but rather just "Bring Carriers" or "Bring the Escort Fleet (No Carriers)"

Well, yeah, I think that's more likely too (not to mention it's how branching has always worked). Which is why I question the use of deciding a specific lineup now. I'm just going to make sure I don't lock any classes OUT of MI by using my highest ships on AL - I'll feel stupid if there's a sub node in MI and I used all my good DDs/CLs on AL.


Someone is going to get the shaft, and I'm going to make sure it's not me. I don't have enough ships fo dis shit.

Your ships all get the shaft - otherwise they don't go anywhere.

oriscus
08-08-2014, 01:17 AM
Leyana
The point isn't necessarily ti clear the maps (though I'd be thrilled if I did), but to test branching rules. If I can beat two nodes, that's a decent amount of info. If I can charge in straight away and get some info on my own without losing anything priority (high level anything) I'll feel pretty good.

If I hit a brick wall and need to wait for others, I'll have the knowledge I tried.

As for determining relevance, that's in thinking of ways the locking would be non-stupid plus real life AL. Nothing from dev tweeta.

Dranikos
08-08-2014, 01:30 AM
Etrigan Ah, I ment I think it's more likely to be a one or two rules on branching per map rather than having a rule for almost every class like, say, 4-3 or 5-3 (where the rules are varied and sometimes highly restrictive to fleet makeup. 4-3 for Souryuu's quest is especially bad because of the 2 DD requirement for that quest)

Lycanous
08-08-2014, 01:35 AM
If devs tweets are to be believed and I'm understanding them as intended then

AL:
CL/CA/CAV/CVL

Lv145 Yahagi
Lv99 Agano
Lv99 Noshiro
Lv99 Yuubari
Lv95 Hiyou
Lv90 Chitose
Lv90 Chiyoda
Lv88 Tone k2
Lv97 Kumano

MI
Lv99 Ooi, KTKM
Lv97 Musashi
Lv94 Yamato
Lv99 Taihou, Kaga
Lv97 Akagi
Lv83 Soryuu, Hiryuu
Lv90 Zuikaku
Lv93 Nagato
Lv88 Kongou, Kirishima
Lv80 Hiei, Haruna
Lv128 Bismarck


But really, we need to see if DDs and CAs will be truly involved. Otherwise I already know how to separate my fleet for equal ball wrecking.

Apokita
08-08-2014, 01:45 AM
http://puu.sh/aJgUF/0328aa26ef.jpg

my AL fleet

Hawky
08-08-2014, 01:58 AM
@Woutan (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/woutan/) Now that is dedication.

I can't take letting my resources run down that much.

Do you guys intend to above your softcap after the event? :o
I intend to go lower than my softcap and help myself to some regen

Leyana
08-08-2014, 02:05 AM
Hawky I always aim to get as much as I can. Then again, I'll probably hang around below the soft cap since I intend to attempt Taihou after the event and finally clear to 5-4.

PrimalBidoof
08-08-2014, 04:08 AM
Like others, I'll be waiting until branching rules are discovered before I set my fleet. No space for errors here I still don't have that many usable ships yet.

farranpoison
08-08-2014, 04:17 AM
I kinda really hope that we don't need to use more than 4 CVs in total for the event.

Because I only have 4 usable CVs. >_>

CVL usage would be welcomed though.

But eh, I suppose I'll wait for the actual rules before panicking over what ships to use.

Harpy
08-08-2014, 04:17 AM
Initial AL fleet will be trash ships who probably aren't even Kai yet... Until I can say for certainty one way or another that my decent CVLs CAs and CLs aren't needed for MI either for branching or to fill in gaps because lol two fleets... My starting "Get punched in the face" team is:

Aoba - lvl17
Hiei - lvl19
Naka - lvl10
Yahagi - lvl17
Souryuu - lvl7
Ryuujou - lvl9

I'm sure they'll go far! :p

PrimalBidoof
08-08-2014, 04:26 AM
I kinda really hope that we don't need to use more than 4 CVs in total for the event.

Because I only have 4 usable CVs. >_>

CVL usage would be welcomed though.

But eh, I suppose I'll wait for the actual rules before panicking over what ships to use.
I only have 3 CVs, and only 2 of them are usable ._.

Amber
08-08-2014, 04:51 AM
hmmm, AL needs CVL, I only have 2 usable CVL (Ryuujou kai ni & Chiyoda kai ni) and maybe 1 barely usable CVL (Houshou kai)

Leyana
08-08-2014, 04:55 AM
Amber Houshou is usable. You need a bit more luck, but Houshou can function.

Amber
08-08-2014, 04:59 AM
@Amber (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/amber/) Houshou is usable. You need a bit more luck, but Houshou can function.

yeah, I hope that 2 CVL is enough to clear AL, but I' screwed if MI needs CVL too

maybe I need to powerleveling Houshou a bit, she still at lv.43 iirc

Hitomi
08-08-2014, 05:01 AM
AL - Naka/Sendai/Kiso/Someone/RJ/Shouhou I hope this will make it...

MI (Carrier group?) - Someone/Someone/Akagi/Kaga/Souryuu/Zuikaku
Escort Fleet(?) - BB/BB/Someone/Someone/Someone/Someone

yep. Pretty solid Line up I have.

Merodyne
08-08-2014, 05:03 AM
AL - Naka/Sendai/Kiso/Someone/RJ/Shouhou I hope this will make it...

MI (Carrier group?) - Someone/Someone/Akagi/Kaga/Souryuu/Zuikaku
Escort Fleet(?) - BB/BB/Someone/Someone/Someone/Someone

yep. Pretty solid Line up I have.
You grinded lots of someone I see °o°

farranpoison
08-08-2014, 05:06 AM
Amber Houshou is usable. You need a bit more luck, but Houshou can function.

Houshou is more than usable. If one of the maps needs CVLs, my level 117 Houshou shall be there to kick some ass.

Leyana
08-08-2014, 05:10 AM
Amber There's your other alternative. Use overlevelled ships.

Amber
08-08-2014, 05:16 AM
Leyana
what the exact mean of "overleveled" btw? over 90?

Leyana
08-08-2014, 05:17 AM
Amber Waifu.

Amber
08-08-2014, 05:20 AM
@Amber (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/amber/) Waifu.

uh-huh, great, LOL

buy me rings neesama, pretty please XD
I have 4 harem waiting to be married

Peth
08-08-2014, 05:29 AM
Pfft Waifu.

Also I'll probably wait a bit for final ship comps required for branching etc before choosing fleet comps. If MI is really going to suck up twice the resources per sortie I'd rather not just save all my BBs for the double fleet comp.

Leyana
08-08-2014, 05:32 AM
Peth 'pfft'. Says the person with 27 married ships.

Peth
08-08-2014, 05:33 AM
Hey I specified Waifu not Waifus.

GuZidi
08-08-2014, 05:44 AM
My fleet is gonna get rekt lol

shiro
08-08-2014, 05:54 AM
My line up for AL still depends on the air superiority complex of that loli boss. Can't really have that much room since I only got 4 out of 7 fleet carriers with me. I do have 2 strong CVLs but if it happens that MI required 6 carriers then I have to pull some backup CVLs and grind them to acceptable levels (i.e. Lv. 70) to be used for AL instead.

Onibi2
08-08-2014, 07:36 AM
Peth 'pfft'. Says the person with 27 married ships.

.....This man has so much love... he requires pagination.

Leyana earlier you mentioned finishing 5-4 afterwards? Does that node have anything to do with the event itself?

Shinjai
08-08-2014, 08:05 AM
Well, my policy of equally levelling my CVs/CVLs is either going to pay off or horribly backfire, depending on whether they are sufficiently levelled given my admiral level.... The levels for my CVs/CVLs are all 79/80 except for Akagi and Kaga who are level 87 and my admiral level is 103. On the other hand I have every single CV and CVL except for Ryuuhou.....

AuKi
08-08-2014, 08:18 AM
First Fleet: Ise/Kongou/Mutsu/Zuikaku/Kaga/Akagi
Second Fleet: Yamato/Hiei/Kirishima/Souryu/Hiryuu/RJ

More or less like that. I don't really know the requirement on the maps tho. I have a few CAs and Yuubari if the need arises. And my CLTs are way ready.

AkiyamaMio
08-08-2014, 08:23 AM
What I'm concerned is what I'd need for the MI "Escort Fleet." The only logical thing I can think of is that it'll require some DDs, but I have no idea how many. IIRC I have at least 7 DDs with +50 level, and I assume the first two AL maps won't be as hard to need them just yet. Probably my Asashios and Kagerous in 30~40 range could handle the DD requirements in AL, if there's such a requirement, and I expect the bulk of the "escort fleet" would be DDs. I may be completely wrong.

The tweet clearly said that we'd have to use CVLs and cruisers, and I'm debating whether I should use my best CAs (Myoukou/Haguro) for AL or not. As long as there's no branching restrictions, I'm willing to throw in a BB for AL as well, if that seems like a more economic solution to get over it and jump onto MI. Well, as for the CVLs I'm dumping the best ones I have, +80 Zuihou and +75 Ryuujou and Hiyou. If MI also requires CVLs I'll send in Chitose/Chiyoda (+70) for reinforcement.

But other than the CVLs, I'll probably use "middling" (40~60) cruisers that I have for AL. I'm not too worried about making trial and errors there; if Lv 45 Yura can't handle AL, then I probably won't use her for the supposedly harder MI.

BBs. Really, no idea. If AL is CVL+Cruisers, and MI is CV Task Force + DD Escort (as I imagine it right now, may be completely wrong), then there's really no place for BBs as there wasn't any historically. I'll throw in Kongous and Nagatos as I go if I need more firepower.

It's kind of fun thinking about whom to bring where and although it's kind of pain in the behind I still like the concept of this event. A lot of the previously neglected ships are finally getting some chance to shine on their own because we're simply forced to use more of them. (Woe to thee, kuso teitoku who played too much favorites...)

One thing I'm sure: I'll send my barely Kai'd Tama and not yet Kai Ni'd Kiso to AL E-1 at least, assuming E-1 is about World 2 difficulty. The two CLs were in charge of the northern seas, after all.

hirohata
08-08-2014, 08:38 AM
I'm pretty much screwed if I need to use CAs, CLs or DDs. The only ones above lvl 50 I have are Hibiki (one more level to Kai Ni), Yuudachi and Isuzu. I do have all three CLTs combat ready though unless specific branching rules. Besides Houshou, all my CVLs are above lvl 69, and my 4 CVs + Taihou are in the lvl 40~60 range.

Equipment-wise I might be able to manage though.

SweetMoonBunny
08-08-2014, 08:51 AM
http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/f5-kancolle-discussion/1231-al-mi-event-marathon-discussion-4.html#post181388

Eye em redeh

shiro
08-08-2014, 08:51 AM
AkiyamaMio Yamamoto's main fleet got 3 BBs in it. They're supposed to be the supporting group that trails Nagumo's carrier fleet after they have weaken enemy forces (inb4 they got rekt). Heck, even Nagumo's fleet got BBs in it (haruna and Kirishima to be exact). Though I really wonder what was that "escort fleet" that they're referring to here.

AkiyamaMio
08-08-2014, 09:01 AM
@shiro (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/shiro/) True, except that I don't really expect BBs to (be meant to) play a big role in either operation. That is, I highly doubt we'd be sending 4 BBs in one sortie to stomp over everything as we usually do/did.

"機動部隊本隊(第1艦隊)と随伴護衛艦隊(第2艦隊)による【連合艦隊】を編成"

The word "護衛" (goei; escort, guard) is used by DDs to refer to what they do to CVs and BBs, so that's why I think the 2nd fleet is going to be DD-heavy, though yes it's a pure speculation.

shiro
08-08-2014, 09:15 AM
@shiro (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/shiro/) True, except that I don't really expect BBs to (be meant to) play a big role in either operation. That is, I highly doubt we'd be sending 4 BBs in one sortie to stomp over everything as we usually do/did.
Agree though I think it would be more like a mixed fleet (BB/CA/DD).

If given a chance, I would really want to bring Yamato to battle especially in MI. At least here, she would be given a chance to shoot those massive guns of hers and prove her worth.

drmchsr0
08-08-2014, 01:53 PM
THE FLEET THAT TOOK ON DUTCH HARBOR:

RJ Kai Ni (75)
Junyou Kai (36)
Maya Kai (25)
Takao Kai (26)
Ise Kai (56)
KTKM-Sama (85)

MIDWAY 1ST STRIKE FORCE
Kaga Kai (75)
Akagi Kai (44)
Kongou Kai Ni (85)
Hiei Kai (50)
Haguro Lai (34)
Hamakaze Kai (41)

MIDWAY 2ND STRIKE FORCE
Soryuu Kai (38)
Hiryuu Kai (38)
Haruna Kai (51)
Kirishima Kai (35)
Kagerou Kai (25)
Shiranui Kai (25)

And yes, all of these ships did take part in both AL and MI.

zero
08-08-2014, 02:07 PM
Planned

main (MI) Fleet


36 Zuikaku Kai
32 Souryuu Kai
34 Akagi Kai
42 KTKM Kai
20 Hiei
40 Fusou Kai

secondary (AL) Fleet

25 Junyou Kai
18 Ryuujou
26 Ooi Kai
30 Yuudachi Kai
18 Mutsu
42 Yamashiro Kai

Need to see Support fleet rules before I select ML or is it like W5?

Peth
08-08-2014, 07:05 PM
Dont forget you'll actually need 4 (5)? fleets if you attempt E6

Harpy
08-08-2014, 07:46 PM
Okay! Provisional First AL Fleet Assembled!

lvl50 Ryuuhou kai
lvl38 Jun'you
lvl38 Naganami
lvl30 Ise
lvl19 Hyuuga
lvl16 Mogami

They are soooo dead... I'm sorry to do this to you RyuuRyuu! I needed Carriers and couldn't spare a CV after all! >_<

Hynaio
08-08-2014, 09:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9QXtEI5.png

Also, full event needs 5 fleets :>. 1 for AL, 3 for MI, 1 for E-6

FireKiller87
08-08-2014, 09:53 PM
5 fleets? Ahahahaha...fuck that shit

AL:
Lv66 Maya
Lv29 Atago/Lv25 Ooi
Lv38 Haruna
Lv33 Fusou
Lv19 Ryuujou
Lv47 Chitose Light Carrier

MI Carrier Force(I'm assuming this is the main attack force, the one I'll be fighting the abyssal fleet with):
Lv116 Isuzu
Lv91 Kitakami CLT
Lv86 Akagi
Lv70 Kaga or Lv69 Souryuu
Lv85 Kongou or Lv83 Kirishima
One other ship, possibly Lv55 Mogami, Lv56 Hyuuga, or Lv33 Hiei

MI Support Fleet: I heard max 2 CA/V and that 1 CL/2 DD are required or something for this. Basing my fleet on this information...
Lv46 Naka
Lv43 Yukikaze
Lv30 Shigure
Lv28 Tenryuu
Lv24 Tone
Lv11 Suzuya(gg wp for you, sorry)

If we do need another fleet for E-6, there should be 1-2 decent-leveled BB, 1-2 CV, and Mogami still in the dorms. I can then throw in a sub and another CL or whatever to round it out. Alternatively I can swap my normal MI force and my E-6 force and murder the last map.

Peth
08-09-2014, 03:47 AM
Really wish I knew what fleet comp e-6 requires. Don't know exactly what to hold back still.

Hawky
08-09-2014, 03:47 AM
We need a different fleet for E6?

Peth
08-09-2014, 03:51 AM
Yes, 1 for AL, 2 for MI, and one for the "extra" E-6. If E-6 requires another 4 CVs I'm going to be leveling and grinding I think. Don't have 8 CVs leveled.

shiro
08-09-2014, 03:56 AM
Peth What? I thought locking only applies between AL and MI.

panda
08-09-2014, 03:59 AM
shiro

It applies to E-6 in that you can't use ships that have been in either MI or AL in it, so you've got to use unmarked. ships. That being said, E-6 is looking rather difficult, from what Japanese streamers are showing.

Peth

E-6 doesn't seem to need four carriers. I'm seeing either 2 CV or 2 CVL with 2 dreadnoughts, 1 CLT, and a wildcard with one Japanese streamer making it to the boss node. That being said, it looks very difficult. I've put screenshots in the relevant E-6 thread.

FireKiller87
08-09-2014, 04:20 AM
>Can't use AL or MI ships for E-6
K...I'm assuming Unryuu is the E-6 clear reward or whatever so I'll cross her off my "ships to get this event" list pre-emptively

panda
08-09-2014, 04:21 AM
FireKiller87

It's not Unryuu. It's Isokaze that is the E-6 reward. Unryuu's the E-5 reward.

FireKiller87
08-09-2014, 04:23 AM
panda
Well, that's a relief assuming I'm able to clear MI in time. I actually really need Unryuu, I only have three battleworthy Standard Carriers...and all Isokaze has is some nice rare DD equipment.

Zanaduz
08-09-2014, 05:01 AM
So has anyone figured out what in heck the branching rules for E-1 and E-2 are?

I promised myself that I wouldn't start the event until I at least had branching rules fully established, but trying to figure out what they are from the EN wiki is an utter mess.

Still not sure what I should split my fleet up like... all I'm sure of is that I'm probably going to end up breaking through the level 80 difficulty cap during this event.

FireKiller87

I'm in much the same boat with you in regards to CVs: I only have Akagi, Kaga and Souryuu, so getting Unryuu would be a massively welcome boost to my carrier fleet. That being said, I can't say I'm a fan of her artwork...

Frostbyte
08-09-2014, 05:06 AM
Zanaduz Her stats are terribly terrible too. I thought she was a CVL at first.

FireKiller87
08-09-2014, 05:08 AM
So has anyone figured out what in heck the branching rules for E-1 and E-2 are?

I promised myself that I wouldn't start the event until I at least had branching rules fully established, but trying to figure out what they are from the EN wiki is an utter mess.

Still not sure what I should split my fleet up like... all I'm sure of is that I'm probably going to end up breaking through the level 80 difficulty cap during this event.

@FireKiller87 (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/firekiller87/)

I'm in much the same boat with you in regards to CVs: I only have Akagi, Kaga and Souryuu, so getting Unryuu would be a massively welcome boost to my carrier fleet. That being said, I can't say I'm a fan of her artwork...

Her artwork is rather meh. That said, graphics have never turned me off so badly that I'd pass on an upgrade to anything.
Unfortunately I'd actually rather take Hiryuu or one of the Crane Sisters over Unryuu's currently listed stats, ESPECIALLY her plane count. 69 planes for a remodelled Standard Carrier is extremely poor, and as listed is actually the lowest plane capacity of all available Standard Carriers, including unremodelled Souryuu and Hiryuu, who carry only slightly fewer planes than Unryuu Kai. As soon as I get another Standard Carrier, Unryuu will likely be retired from my fleet. She only seems useful beyond a filler carrier for her planes.

Zanaduz
08-09-2014, 05:21 AM
FireKiller87

That's especially disappointing, given that the Unryuu-class was essentially a slightly modified Hiryuu, so if anything, Unryuu and her sisters should have had slightly MORE plane space...

Also, I would have figured that Unryuu would have had a terrible luck stat (like Taihou). Her fate mirrored Taihou's -- she was sunk by a torpedo hit that caused a secondary explosion (in Unryuu's case, the load of Ohka rocket-kamikaze "planes" she was transporting at the time).

FireKiller87
08-09-2014, 05:24 AM
@FireKiller87 (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/firekiller87/)

That's especially disappointing, given that the Unryuu-class was essentially a slightly modified Hiryuu, so if anything, Unryuu and her sisters should have had slightly MORE plane space...

Also, I would have figured that Unryuu would have had a terrible luck stat (like Taihou). Her fate mirrored Taihou's -- she was sunk by a torpedo hit that caused a secondary explosion (in Unryuu's case, the load of Ohka rocket-kamikaze "planes" she was transporting at the time).

I wouldn't call that bad luck per se, just a lucky torpedo strike by the attacker. Taihou was a bit different; IIRC the secondary explosion that sealed her fate was caused by atrocious damage control by her crew and poor decision-making by her captain after Taihou was initially struck, making poor Taihou into a gigantic, heavily-armored ticking time bomb thanks to all the flammable gasses filling her interior.

Zanaduz
08-09-2014, 05:30 AM
FireKiller87

I could argue about the complicity of her command crew in the fate of Taihou, but we're straying from topic; also, my questions about the event are unanswered...

I'm loathe to start on the event without having a clearer idea of what I should be bringing, given that I'm close to HQ 80 (currently HQ 72) and my relatively underleveled fleet (my top kanmusu are still only in the ~50s range...). I don't want to start on the event and blow my HQ level up further without success to show for it, and the situation with my girls' levels only compounds the matter (because once I hit HQ 80, all bets are off on whether they could handle the increased difficulty...)

FireKiller87
08-09-2014, 05:35 AM
@FireKiller87 (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/firekiller87/)

I could argue about the complicity of her command crew in the fate of Taihou, but we're straying from topic; also, my questions about the event are unanswered...

I'm loathe to start on the event without having a clearer idea of what I should be bringing, given that I'm close to HQ 80 (currently HQ 72) and my relatively underleveled fleet (my top kanmusu are still only in the ~50s range...). I don't want to start on the event and blow my HQ level up further without success to show for it, and the situation with my girls' levels only compounds the matter (because once I hit HQ 80, all bets are off on whether they could handle the increased difficulty...)

I'd focus on E-1 and E-2 then. As a Lv83 admiral, I'm bringing 2 CA, 1-2 BB, and 2 CVL to clear AL, all underleveled(highest is a 67 Maya, lowest is a 21 Ryuujou), and while they get damaged, only the lowest-level ones take serious damage from a direct hit. My CAs and BBs are set for double attacks(dual main cannons, 1x seaplane, and a radar) and my CVLs have fighters in their largest slots, torpedo bombers in the other slots, and a Saiun in Ryuujou's smallest slot.

Ryuuhou Kagiyama
08-09-2014, 05:43 AM
After watching the streams, I've decided to pick my fleet to what I've seen. Hopefully I don't get any surprises with this lineup.




CVL Task Force


Lv43 Musashi Kai/Lv 73 Verniy


Lv66 Ise Kai/Lv60 Shigure Kai Ni


Lv61 Kinugasa Kai Ni/Lv60 Sendai Kai Ni


Lv88 Chiyoda Kai Ni


Lv8 Ryuujou Kai Ni


Lv97 Kiso Kai Ni





Carrier Fleet
Escort Fleet


Lv30 Akagi
Lv78 Chikuma Kai Ni


Lv76 Kaga Kai
Lv70 Myoukou Kai Ni


Lv83 Hiryuu Kai Ni
Lv65 Haguro Kai Ni


Lv82 Souryuu Kai Ni
Lv61 Jintsuu Kai Ni


Lv92 Haruna Kai Ni
Lv84 Yuudachi Kai Ni


Lv30 Nagato Kai
Lv74 Ayanami Kai Ni





E-6 Fleet


Lv92 Kirishima Kai Ni


Lv75 Kongou Kai Ni


Lv75 Hiei Kai Ni


Lv48 Zuikaku Kai


Lv40 Taihou Kai


Lv98 Kitakami Kai Ni

Zanaduz
08-09-2014, 03:58 PM
@FireKiller87 (http://kancolle.himeuta.net/forums/members/firekiller87/)

I'm unsure if I could clear AL with a medium setup - I have Chitose Carrier Kai and Chiyoda Carrier Kai for CVLs already picked out (they're my top two CVLs, at level 44), and I'll probably back them up with the Tone sisters (both at level 41), along with 2 DDs (probably Mochizuki and Yayoi, who are both 32). If my AL fleet turns out to be too light, I can swap in a BBV (Yamashiro @ 35, Fusou @ 42).

I'll also probably attempt to clear MI as well -- all three of my CVs would go (Kaga, Akagi and Souryuu, who are all 55), as well as perhaps one or two of my Kongou-class BBs (all level 58). Not sure what to put into the "escort" fleet for MI though -- while I've been diligently making sure to keep my kanmusu levels fairly even, I'm not sure as to what sort of composition would be a good idea...

I doubt I would go for E6 though -- by that point I fully expect to be over the level for difficulty spike, and I wouldn't have enough CVs to realistically provide air cover for that final push (sure, I'd get Unryuu out of E5, but her alone would be inadequate to clear E6, I bet...)

**Edit/Update** Decided to go with Chitose/Chiyoda/Myoukou/Mogami/Yamashiro/Yuubari as my fleet setup for AL.

**Further Edit/Update** I give up. Haven't even made it to the boss of E-1 ONCE yet, despite running it nearly all day...

Peth
08-10-2014, 04:54 AM
Planned Fleet comps based on currently spaded branching rules.

AL Fleet

Haruna Kai Ni 100
Kumano Kai 70
Myoukou Kai ni 70
Noshiro Kai 80
Chiyoda Kai ni 104
Ryuujou kai ni 100

MI Fleet Alpha

Hiei Kai ni 118
Kirishima Kai ni 100
Zuikaku kai 100
Shokaku kai 100
Hiryuu Kai ni 100
Soryuu kai ni 78 or Chikuma Kai ni 75

MI Fleet Beta

Tone Kai ni 71
Jintsuu Kai ni 82
Verniy 115
Yuudachi Kai ni 108
Shigure Kai ni 106
Kitakami Kai ni 123

E6 Fleet

Yamato Kai 104
Nagato Kai 100
Kongou Kai ni 118
Taiho Kai 106
Kaga kai 102
Ooi Kai ni 123 /Kiso Kai ni 118

Saves Chitose kai ni 100 zuiho kai ni 100 and junyou kai 85 in case I need them for something unexpected. Will have a few DDs/CLs I can rotate around as needed as well.