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Arimpact
05-20-2014, 12:01 AM
I just got to 4-3 and read you can sub farm there. Does 4-3 gets you more drops than 1-5? Also it looks like since I have chances of going to other nodes, I might end up losing hp during these runs unlike 1-5. Is that the case?

Enterprise
05-20-2014, 12:03 AM
I've gotten about 30+ subs drops from 1-5 since it arrived a couple months ago, and it is pretty resource efficient for me,as I was about HQ level 70. Redoing anything to "farm" in world 4 or 5 just makes me cringe.

HydraGoliath
05-20-2014, 12:04 AM
I just got to 4-3 and read you can sub farm there. Does 4-3 gets you more drops than 1-5? Also it looks like since I have chances of going to other nodes, I might end up losing hp during these runs unlike 1-5. Is that the case?

4-3 is sub farming in the sense of grinding the sub nodes for exp not grinding nodes for sub drops.

Laisy
05-20-2014, 12:20 AM
Even for exp grinding, I think 1-5 is more efficient(resources at least).

Enterprise
05-20-2014, 12:21 AM
Welp, that fixes that misunderstanding. I don't think subs drop in 4-3 anyway.

HydraGoliath
05-20-2014, 12:22 AM
Even for exp grinding, I think 1-5 is more efficient(resources at least).

Pre HQ Level 80 it is, but once the Elite Ka shows up 4-3 is better. 4-3 is also double the experiance per node for Flag + MVP as well.

Kuropo
05-20-2014, 12:23 AM
I've gotten about 30+ subs drops from 1-5 since it arrived a couple months ago, and it is pretty resource efficient for me,as I was about HQ level 70. Redoing anything to "farm" in world 4 or 5 just makes me cringe.

I actually find some maps in world 4 and 5 to be pretty good places to grind (ship) exp! :O
(Ship) exp gain in world 1 through 3 are not very great and your ships often suffer from fatigue penalties.
I have been continuously grinding (admiral points) in world 1-5 for the last few weeks though, but the ship exp are still very low.

Arimpact If you really want to obtain a sub though, you might be better off attempting to craft those.
I do not know whether grinding 1-5 or construction has a higher rate of obtaining a sub though.

Enterprise
05-20-2014, 12:25 AM
Don't forget that 4-3 has a better chance of your ships getting blown to hell despite your best efforts.

Crafting Subs : About 5 total. Waste of time
1-5: As I said before, over 30+ drops that just get used as modernization parts.

Laisy
05-20-2014, 12:27 AM
Pre HQ Level 80 it is, but once the Elite Ka shows up 4-3 is better. 4-3 is also double the experiance per node for Flag + MVP as well.

Is that so? I hasn't reach Level 80 since I'm slacking off.

Kuropo
05-20-2014, 12:27 AM
Don't forget that 4-3 has a better chance of your ships getting blown to hell despite your best efforts.

Crafting Subs : About 5 total. Waste of time
1-5: As I said before, over 30+ drops that just get used as modernization parts.

It might be me being pretty unlucky.. :/
As mentioned before, I have been grinding for quite a long while. However, not many subs drop for me.. :/
(My HQ level is 99)

nwrtz
05-20-2014, 12:28 AM
Also Iku isn't craftable so you have to get her as a drop, it more or less comes down to preference and how your luck with crafting is in general.

Also grinding 1-5 might be okay in lower levels but when you can either rotate your fleet for 3-2-a or do 4-1/4-3 they're a better choice.

Kuropo
05-20-2014, 12:36 AM
Not sure whether this is true or not, but I noticed that sub drop rates are higher when your HQ level is 80 or above.
Furthermore, I have never seen Iku being dropped at node C at HQ level below 40, and neither have I seen Hachi being dropped in any of the nodes at HQ level below 80.

Leyana
05-20-2014, 12:37 AM
Sub drop rates definitely increase at HQ80. I got nothing but DDs and Houshou from doing 1-5 until I hit 80. Then I started getting subs.

Enterprise
05-20-2014, 12:41 AM
(My HQ level is 99)
Been grinding it since I was about 70. Now I'm 91.

Kuropo
05-20-2014, 12:44 AM
Sub drop rates definitely increase at HQ80. I got nothing but DDs and Houshou from doing 1-5 until I hit 80. Then I started getting subs.

I still get nothing than DDs and Houshou, subs are still quite rare for me..
RNG I guess.. :/

Enterprise
05-20-2014, 12:46 AM
I think luck is somehow dependent on your IGN. lol

Kuropo
05-20-2014, 12:53 AM
I think luck is somehow dependent on your IGN. lol

That might actually be the case.. :/
I still would not change my name if we were able to, even without any costs! : )

KazeNoTama
05-20-2014, 01:03 AM
4-3 is faster because flag ship and MVP exp is 2k3 for 2 nodes but it's harder. You may go to node J against quite strong enemy fleet, flag ship's not always get MVP because there is also transport ships, CL or something in sub nodes. For me, my fleet is 1 DD, 3 CLTs, 1 random, and 1 BB, I have to equip my flag ship with 2 type 3 sonar, 1 type 93 depth charge, 1 type 93 sonar for each CLT since without it they cannot kill elite subs. Drop is not really good, just so so. 1-5 drops subs, resource efficient.

Arimpact
05-20-2014, 01:39 AM
k, sounds like 1-5 then. thx

Jinxed_Katajainen
05-20-2014, 02:53 AM
Yeah.. from my experience I've had better luck getting subs as drops.
I crafted I-168 and I-8 but that was before they were implemented as drops in 1-5.
I-19 and I-58 I got as drops during the winter event.. I-401 we all know was the reward for that.

Since then, I've seen at least three of each drop in 1-5 or 5-4 (except I-401 of course)

Madcownivean
05-20-2014, 03:55 AM
Personally, I wouldn't be overly concerned about the elite sub that shows up after Lvl80 in 1-5. Yes, it does shoot an opening line ahead salvo, but there's always a chance it might miss, just hit you into yellow, or just scratch the armor of your BBV (you are bringing a BBV right?) Usually I go BBV [best asw planes], CVL[3 best asw planes, 1 saiun], 2 DD/CL [1 sonar, 1 depth charge, 1 turbine]

Depends on what you're farming.. sub drops post Lvl80 are sweet, just got my first Iku at node C two days ago (HQ 84). ^_^
I started 1-5 around HQ 35, wasn't lucky enough to get Iku from pre HQ 80 boss node nor from the event maps.

S.Razelrink
05-20-2014, 05:56 PM
from my experience, I've been doing 1-5 for a while since it came out mostly to get my first iku (which I only got a few days ago) and I used to think 1-5 was better than 4-3 for experience/resources

how wrong I was! 4-3 in terms of resource and experience and fatigue, is so much better than 1-5! the only reason why I'd go to 1-5 anymore is to beat the boss gauge or to farm submarines, which there's no point of me doing anymore!

Arimpact
05-20-2014, 11:07 PM
subs aside, does drops in general gets better post HQ80? I've been trying to hold HQ leveling back since beating maps are easier right now but fruitlessly farming 3-2-A for kongou is getting really boring.

Evans
05-20-2014, 11:10 PM
According to Lycanous, you can only get I-8 when you reach lvl 80. I'm already lvl. 101 when I started 1-5 back in march so I can't say much about drop rates but many people say the subs drop more often after reaching HQ lvl 80. And no, HQ level doesn't affect drop rarity chances on other maps.

Leyana
05-20-2014, 11:15 PM
Arimpact None of the maps except 1-5 and 5-5 scale with HQ level. You can always progress and come back around to 1-5 later when your ASW team is stronger.

I cleared 1-5 at 80 with Ise/Chiyoda/Yuubari/Isuzu all around about 40. Your CLs/DDs will be the main force when loaded up with ASW equips.