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dranzerstar
10-31-2015, 02:56 AM
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666954549811351552
4 new BGMs added
[Fleet rally] at normal nodes
[Transport mission]at normal nodes
[Counterattack of the torpedo squadrion] at boss node
[ambush night battle] final BGM

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666953134686797824
Final Boss of EO will have [Armor reduce mechanic]
*There is no visual indication of the reduce
*regenerates everyday at 0500

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666951768287367170
New enemy [PT devils] They can only be attacked by DDs and sub guns of Larger ships.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666951055930990592
Graf Zeppelin, Prinz Eugen, Roma, Arashi will drop at EO missions

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666950006222491648
EO will be e4[Western battlefield! Send carrier support e5[Vanilla Bay night battle], clearing will award DD Hagikaze

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666948985475768321
Akitsuki kawakaze mizuho will drop in main mission. *Higher difficulties will increase their drop rate. Clearing main mission unlocks EO

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666947659987578881
some equipment will increase the gauge depletion, in E3, combined transport fleet can be deployed with 2 large ships.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666947052501340161
[Transport landing gauge] e-2 and e-3 will use [Transport landing gauge], you can deplete it by reaching the node and the clearing the neighboring node.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666946794283249664
Combined fleets E-1 will use combined fleet *drag fleet 2 icon to fleet 1 to combined them.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666945868109635585
The main missions are.. 1st Transport mission! clearing the path 2nd Kolobogara battle 3rd Weigh anchor! transport fleet

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666945412868259840
The operation consists of the main and the extra missions, newer admirals should aim on finishing the main operation.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666937597755842560
Fall event 2015 [Advance! Transport mission] has begun, the operation will be completed by torpedo squadrons.

So far we know,
1. starts on 18thNov
2. Mid scale
3. Lasts for about 2 weeks
4. Multiple new ships
5. Combined fleet as usual
6. Smuggling and brawling in the southern seas.
7. Based on the round island Kolombangara islands.
8. Fleet lock as usual
9. NOT Ta-operation (not Battle of Ormoc Bay)
10. DDs used as main force in the event
11. Akizuki will be a drop
12. A certain foreign ship added
13. CL required as flagship for missions
14. Training CL exp mechanic buffs
15. Up to 4 new kanmusus added.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/666776245141540867/bMMlnXtL.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/666828600453165057/-Vj8BS6Z.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/666410867261505537/qrfafoD0.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/665706115955429376/lPQpsCCa.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/666061260614598656/FdKP1wdg.png




Kolombangara islands, Enemy meantsuu confirmed.


http://puu.sh/laWTt/35931f823d.png

Note: 2015summer and 2015spring events were claim to last for around 20days, this time is just around 2 weeks


https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666412798386147332
Kancolle Fall event2015 [Advance! Sea Transport mission] is the main operation consists of completing [Transport missions]. There will be up to 4 new kanmusu added

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666069029828734976
Kancolle Fall event2015 [Advance! Sea Transport mission]The operation does not offer much showtime for large ships,but they are [transport missions] to be completed by warships of the torpedo squadron. Multiple high level destroyers and their torpedo squadron flagship was ... Strong light cruisers are needed.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666066961197985793
The exp gain in practice matches with training CL in it will be greatly increase. There is going to be a buff towards EXP gain with high level training CL, and the xp gain will also be increased for ships
that are in their low levels. In the next maint, the gain will also apply even if the training CL is not the flag ship.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/666064434536714240
Multiple ships and a [training CL] will be added, when partnered with a training CL in practices, it will increase the exp gain, using multiples will increase the gain even more.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/665345249670107136
Kancolle Fall event2015 [Advance! Sea Transport mission] is the main operation consists of completing [Transport missions]. A high leveled [Light cruiser] as flagship of torpedo squadron is also very important.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/664956505242759168
Kancolle Fall event2015 [Advance! Sea Transport mission] is the main operation consists of completing [Transport missions] with destroyers. However,there are still missions that requires large ships like battleships and carrier. The event will start at next week [18th Nov]. A certain foreign ship will be added

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/664613040071946241
Kancolle Fall event2015 [Advance! Sea Transport mission] is the main operation consists of completing [Transport missions] with destroyers. However,there are still missions that requires large ships like battleships and carrier. The event will start at next week [18th Nov]. [Akizuki] will also be a drop in the event.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/664247127351033856
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. The event is not based on [Ta-operation], it will be transport mission. High leveled [DD] will become the main force. People aimed at clearing the main operation, please prepare your destroyers.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/663884408374452224
Fleet lock as usual for difficulty B and A.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/662429665479364608
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. It is a medium scale event and the event consists of 2 parts the main mission (former part)
and extended missions(later part)

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/662067329895788544
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. In this fall event, the main operation will be based on [transport missions] of a certain round shape islands. Please prepare well trained escorts of this type of missions!

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/661706396866490368
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. Unlike summer, This is not a large scale event. Fall event will be based on
warship [transport missions] as well as battles at the southern seas.

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/661348144018427904
The next event will be held on 18th Nov, there will be [combined fleet] as usual,
multiple new ships added, and it will be a medium scale event

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/660272304425844737
The next event will be held on 18th Nov and it will be a mid scale event and it will be lasting for about 2 weeks.

Neptuneman
10-31-2015, 02:58 AM
@dranzerstar (http://www.himeuta.net/members/18-dranzerstar/) November 18th*


Mid scale is 5 or 6 maps, right?

goesto11
10-31-2015, 03:03 AM
Neptuneman: "medium size" is usually 5 maps, though if I recall correctly, Fall 2014 was considered "medium" and was 4 maps. 6+ maps is a "large event".

ofi123
10-31-2015, 03:08 AM
dranzerstar

Nooo~ The event is nearly over and I haven't even touched the first map~

HydraGoliath
10-31-2015, 03:17 AM
Not expecting a challenge from this event.

Also don't forget to prepare your bauxite and carrier fleet http://i.imgur.com/zdPsYkP.png.

Laisy
10-31-2015, 03:18 AM
Also don't forget to prepare your bauxite and carrier fleet http://i.imgur.com/zdPsYkP.png.

This is becoming a running gag, isn't it?

HydraGoliath
10-31-2015, 03:18 AM
Laisy

It's already a Kancolle meme.

dranzerstar
10-31-2015, 03:20 AM
I am Saury

DoraGrailMon
10-31-2015, 03:23 AM
First the feeeesh farm, then the fighter plane rank grind. They are just looking for more creative ways to waste our precious resources aren't they?

goesto11
10-31-2015, 03:47 AM
DoraGrailMon: Always.

Joker
10-31-2015, 04:20 AM
welp... my finals are on the end of november ... damn :/ guess m going full easy again just to finish early

oriscus
10-31-2015, 04:25 AM
Joker
If it's anything like Fall 2014 I wouldn't worry too much.

It was my second event (okay, I did technically participate in Spring 2014....) and I found extremely easy. I was nowhere near k2 tricked out, but managed quite well.

Joker
10-31-2015, 04:37 AM
oriscus idk man.. last event made me think every event will be like the previous one... please no AA hime again.. i only manage to kill her twice 1 from luck and 1 from last dance and it was really brutal :c

NanoKhoroDesuSho
10-31-2015, 06:50 AM
Joker Don't worry, I feel your pain. All of my finals are that week and the following. At least there's Thanksgiving the second week (if it applies to you), so maybe a few days to devote to the event. :'-)

Fonek
10-31-2015, 02:57 PM
So it should be 5-6 maps including EOs? Well I wouldn't mind if it was 5 maps cause I didn't have much time (and well I was really exhausted by summer event) to play game and prepare my fleet.

Reunilu
10-31-2015, 03:02 PM
Ah man, fall event starts in the middle of the week. Ah well. I'm praying it'll be five maps. I mean, it'll most likely be five maps, but I swear to god, if Tanaka pulls a fast one...

Emerald Acid
10-31-2015, 03:04 PM
I desperately hope that Fall lives up to its reputation as a really easy event.

Because after getting Zuikaku's Blueprint later in the day, I'm probably gonna be going into the event with between 150-200 buckets compared to the 600 I had for Summer.

HaguroImValhara
10-31-2015, 03:04 PM
Hoping there's just 5maps...I have been busy all days and have no resources.......
And hoping there will be some girls useful, Not like Umikaze.....

oriscus
10-31-2015, 03:08 PM
And hoping there will be some girls useful, Not like Umikaze.....
Umikaze is super useful.

She, uh, fixes the distinct epic braid shortage in the base.



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inazuma121
10-31-2015, 03:09 PM
@HaguroImValhara (http://www.himeuta.net/members/16107-haguroimvalhara/) Been wishing for that too, having nearly all DDs after having two BBs in Spring 2015 was kind of a shock >.< They say a large foreign ship will be coming our way this Fall though, so there's hope

HaguroImValhara
10-31-2015, 03:16 PM
oriscus Ah so, she is very cute with beautiful braid......but the fire power and torpedo stats is ............not so good......I think......

oriscus
10-31-2015, 04:01 PM
HaguroImValhara
Her FP and torp are perfectly average.

Which is usually insufficient for higher tier maps.

Tiggyz
10-31-2015, 04:05 PM
Do we know what the event is going to be based off of yet?

Fonek
10-31-2015, 04:13 PM
@HaguroImValhara
Well maybe one day she will get good K2 and become not only cute but very useful. Still I like her very much and I don't mind using weaker ships.

So now everyone will start guessing what ship will be that new foreign ship. I can't wait for event just for that ship and one new quest require Teruzuki and Akizuki? I saw someone posted interesting video from youtube in that saury end patch, so maybe Akizuki will be a drop? God I really need to buy more slots now.

HaguroImValhara
10-31-2015, 05:13 PM
Fonek Ah ja ,love is the 1st~ i dont mind status too...But compared to spring event's difficulty and reward..With much more difficult and get 2 DD...........Just some bit unhappy......

oriscus
10-31-2015, 05:30 PM
HaguroImValhara
Last summer had relatively poor rewards as well.

There was Unryuu, but if you passed E-2, she was practically guaranteed.

kyu bey
10-31-2015, 05:37 PM
@HaguroImValhara (http://www.himeuta.net/members/16107-haguroimvalhara/)
Last summer had relatively poor rewards as well.

There was Unryuu, but if you passed E-2, she was practically guaranteed.

*raise hand
i still don't have her >_<

oriscus
10-31-2015, 05:42 PM
kyu bey
I know some people who cleared AL didn't clear MI.

kyu bey
10-31-2015, 05:55 PM
oriscus unryuu / most drop only type likes to dodge me (inb4 still no unryuu after fall event) >_<

oriscus
10-31-2015, 05:56 PM
kyu bey
Unryuu was a map clear reward.

kyu bey
10-31-2015, 06:03 PM
oriscus at summer 2014 E5. not E2.

oriscus
10-31-2015, 06:11 PM
kyu bey
When I said, "Practically everyone" I meant that as long as you had the requisite ships not yet locked, clearing MI was a joke next to AL. Such that most everyone who cleared AL would have had a very good chance at clearing MI.

I did not mean clearing E-2 auto granted you Unryuu.

There would be those without the requisite ships, those who got scared by the viciousness of E-2, those that didn't start the event with sufficient time to clear, those that got straight fucked by RNG, and some other issues that never did manage. But over all the path to a victorious E-5 was fairly smooth once E-2 was cleared.

Fonek
10-31-2015, 06:33 PM
HaguroImValhara Yeah at least we got Littorio from spring she's good, and Katsuragi which is cute and useful. Summer got only DDs and rather weak ships.

Well I hope event will be really easy, I don't have much resource now and I need to lvl up some ships in case of weird routings.

Kusomon
10-31-2015, 06:52 PM
@HaguroImValhara (http://www.himeuta.net/members/16107-haguroimvalhara/) They say a large foreign ship will be coming our way this Fall though, so there's hope

USS Iowa?

HaguroImValhara
10-31-2015, 06:54 PM
oriscus Ah that's it! Summers and Winters often have bad reward..
But I was touring in Europe for 2 weeks.When I came back to home, i had to prepare for my university.....So.I missed the event completely~........

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Kusomon I think Tirpitz or Scharnhorst.....just guess...

Kusomon
10-31-2015, 07:02 PM
@HaguroImValhara (http://www.himeuta.net/members/16107-haguroimvalhara/)

Yeah, I just named a random foreign battleship. I am looking forward to this new addition~

oriscus
10-31-2015, 07:10 PM
Kusomon
If/when Kancolle introduces Allied ships, they will likely either go balls deep with Enterprise/Missouri or something famous but innocuous like HMS Hood (related to Bisko, but sunk before Japan and the UK went to war).

HaguroImValhara
10-31-2015, 07:12 PM
Fonek That's it....It used to be easily...Hope now it remains easy too.....I have 100,000 resources before...but all used by my friends.....................

Leyana
11-01-2015, 10:20 PM
oriscus Warspite is a candidate going by the comments that Libeccio makes. :p

Yamako
11-03-2015, 02:41 AM
Please no more fucking BP ships. I'm already behind 3 BP. Anymore and I'm going to have to shoot myself.

Leyana
11-03-2015, 02:42 AM
Yamako You know it's coming.

Yamako
11-03-2015, 02:45 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/) Tanaka: Guys we're adding Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, and Shinano in the game. Each requires 2 BP AND a spare Yamato to kai.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Leyana
11-03-2015, 02:47 AM
Yamako Wouldn't be surprised it Tirpitz did require 2 blueprints.

goesto11
11-03-2015, 03:30 AM
Multiple new ships -> The increased incentive to buy additional slots continues, but nothing new I suppose.

@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): I would be more surprised if Tirpitz did not require 2x BP and have a drei remodel. Same goes if Italian BB ever get a kai ni (or whatever it would be in Italian). BP required.

ofi123
11-03-2015, 05:37 AM
goesto11

inb4 1 Katori class + 4 DDs
Still multiple new ships.

Kuren
11-03-2015, 05:56 AM
Nothing most KC players (excluding those that are having their first event) didn't already know, I guess.

Now I can wonder how many of these new ships are decently usable in battle and not just become another fleet of trophies.

goesto11
11-03-2015, 06:04 AM
@goesto11 (http://www.himeuta.net/members/3908-goesto11/)

inb4 1 Katori class + 4 DDs
Still multiple new ships.

LOL - could be. Perhaps a DE as well?

jammertime
11-03-2015, 06:12 AM
I just want to hear the hints about that large foreign ship we're supposedly getting soon. She'll end up making the difference on how much effort I put into last minute resource hoarding.

Sticking to my hunch though and saying it'll be Admiral Hipper to follow up the Akizuki/Teruzuki thing last event.

Strafe
11-03-2015, 07:20 AM
@HaguroImValhara (http://www.himeuta.net/members/16107-haguroimvalhara/)
Last summer had relatively poor rewards as well.

There was Unryuu, but if you passed E-2, she was practically guaranteed.

Sigh. . .I spent the last week of the Summer event grinding E-2 wasting more resources than when I was still finishing the entire event maps just for her and all I got were tons of Agano Kongo and Yayoi. Reading from the comments section on wiki majority of the ones who got her finished E-2 on Easy, of course this is not an exact thing.

Leyana
11-03-2015, 10:28 PM
Strafe Most people knew when to give up and go easy.

dranzerstar
11-04-2015, 01:23 AM
Event details: Smuggle stuff in southern seas.

Marez
11-04-2015, 01:26 AM
Hopefully not fish.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 01:34 AM
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. Unlike summer, This is not a large scale event. Fall event will be based on warship [transport missions] as well as battles at the southern seas.

LOL, I wonder how many times tweets will contain an "unlike Summer...." phrase. As for "warship transport missions", makes me think of Tokyo Express = DD heavy event?.

@Marez (http://www.himeuta.net/members/11130-marez/): Rats (http://bato.to/reader#bc8660686d4ae66e_4). ;)

Marez
11-04-2015, 01:46 AM
goesto11

I see what you did there! I've always wondered why it was named that way.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 01:49 AM
Marez: Couldn't resist. XD As for the nickname (from Wiki): The Japanese called the night resupply missions Rat Transportation (é¼*輸送 nezumi yusō?), because they took place at night.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 01:52 AM
The next event will be held on 18th Nov. Unlike summer, This is not a large scale event. Fall event will be based on warship [transport missions] as well as battles at the southern seas.

LOL, I wonder how many times tweets will contain an "unlike Summer...." phrase. As for "warship transport missions", makes me think of Tokyo Express = DD heavy event?.

@Marez (http://www.himeuta.net/members/11130-marez/): Rats (http://bato.to/reader#bc8660686d4ae66e_4). ;)


Teruzuki was the event ship from the Summer, and now they're talking about southern transport missions.

I'm going to call it right now: Tassafaronga will be involved.

mickeygame
11-04-2015, 01:53 AM
goesto11
It might be a mission where the ships transport/escort a ship from a naval base to the other base.

I'm at the office, so I couldn't find more info right now. But if I remember correctly it might be a mission where they escort Yamato Nagato and Fusou down south

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jammertime
11-04-2015, 01:57 AM
Transport missions, plus the sonars and stuff recently? My immediate thought was something to do with U-234, but I doubt it since that was post-WWII iirc. That and the only mentioned foreign ship was "large-sized" haha

Leyana
11-04-2015, 02:03 AM
goesto11 Transport makes me think of 1-6.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 02:19 AM
@mickeygame (http://www.himeuta.net/members/2730-mickeygame/): Possibly, but I suspect there will be some historical battle associated with such such a mission if it's used for an event..

@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): The the Battle of Tassafaronga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tassafaronga) may very well be a good guess. Has the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Warship_surface_battle _of_14.E2.80.9315_November) been covered yet? Don't think so. Teruzuki was involved in that as well.

@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): Well, "1-6: The Event" would be pretty easy. Perhaps some special branching with Daihatsu equipped?

Leyana
11-04-2015, 02:34 AM
goesto11 Oh there will probably be combat 'clear out the ships from the transport route' maps.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 02:41 AM
Leyana: No doubt. Always seems to be one, but will I get some (potentially) big resource reward for each full run like 1-6?

Leyana
11-04-2015, 02:49 AM
goesto11 Dunno. But that would certainly help with event resource drain.

somniare
11-04-2015, 02:54 AM
I'm going to kill myself if this is 3-5 + 5-3. :yahagi_sad:

Kuren
11-04-2015, 02:57 AM
The "transport thing" may work like 6-3 instead of 1-6 though. Either way it can be pretty difficult if we need to bring a light fleet when they throw BBs at us. 6-3 trauma intensifies.

And since this is Southern Sea, better prepare for Re-class as always..... :shimakaze_grin:

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 03:03 AM
Kuren Pls no light fleet + Re-class. I've yet to encounter her personally since feesh and event prep stopped my progression at unlocking 5-3, but I've heard all the horror stories.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 03:06 AM
Kuren: I can see the transport aspect working like 6-3. As for Re-class, inb4 Re-flagship introduced and Re-Hime final boss for EO map. Just kidding (I hope >_>).

Mignonette
11-04-2015, 03:13 AM
I hope we're smuggling goods to our friends, the (new) Germans. :^)

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 03:19 AM
goesto11 Inb4 this (http://senkanseiki.tumblr.com/post/101136581343/outofabyss-re-class-fk-statistics-and-equipment) disaster is unleashed upon us.

mickeygame
11-04-2015, 03:36 AM
I hope we're smuggling goods to our friends, the (new) Germans. :^)
There's no guarantee that the new foreign ships will be German but yeah... i hope so.

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Ruga-chan
11-04-2015, 03:42 AM
Yay another DD fest, who would've thought

http://puu.sh/l8FMY/759dcc352b.jpg

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 03:47 AM
iPe7eR I'd love more cute DDs =D

And SS, but that's pretty much the least likely thing ever.

Kuren
11-04-2015, 03:52 AM
Emerald Acid Well, at least they give us Yuu/Ro this year, compared to no subs last year.

Though it's too bad that every new DD are mediocre at best, although I still appreciate cute DDs.

Leyana
11-04-2015, 03:55 AM
Where is this new DD news? Foreign or Japanese?

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 03:56 AM
Kuren Sadly I still don't have Yuu or Ro yet. Here's hoping she's not Hard Mode only this time around.

I pretty much already am happy with my overall naval yard loadout (Prinz where?). So I just wanna collect more cute. Libeccio was pretty much the second best ship I got from Summer 15, after Teruzuki and her adorable-ness. Although my like for Teru is also influenced by just how hard I worked for her in the first place.

Ruga-chan
11-04-2015, 04:01 AM
Where is this new DD news? Foreign or Japanese?

It's called speculation

http://puu.sh/l8GNV/c111b2e04c.jpg

But come on, do you need official stuff to know there's gonna be atleast 4DDs as rewards? :^)

Leyana
11-04-2015, 04:02 AM
iPe7eR Speculation or a forgone conclusion?

Kuren
11-04-2015, 04:02 AM
Leyana Arashi and Hagikaze already hinted way back then during the time they are planning to release Shoukaku Kai Ni.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 04:03 AM
@mickeygame (http://www.himeuta.net/members/2730-mickeygame/): Possibly, but I suspect there will be some historical battle associated with such such a mission if it's used for an event..

@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): The the Battle of Tassafaronga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tassafaronga) may very well be a good guess. Has the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Warship_surface_battle _of_14.E2.80.9315_November) been covered yet? Don't think so. Teruzuki was involved in that as well.

@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): Well, "1-6: The Event" would be pretty easy. Perhaps some special branching with Daihatsu equipped?

Since it's a campaign, it might very well open with the campaign being about Guadalcanal, and one of the maps being Tassafaronga with Teruzuki giving branching.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 04:04 AM
Leyana: New DD are a given IMO. Question I have is whether there are any new foreign ships this time around (outside of DD).

Leyana
11-04-2015, 04:07 AM
EchIII Teruzuki giving special branching would be an absolutely scumbag thing to do.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 04:07 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/)

And that's precisely why they'd do it.

Tanaka, remember?

Leyana
11-04-2015, 04:08 AM
EchIII But even Tanaka knows when his life will be in danger.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 04:10 AM
@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): So if at least part is based off of the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, Takao/Atago and/or ,Nagara/Sendai special branching? Possibly Kirishima as well (actual battle doesn't end well for Kirishima).

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Leyana: Agree that Teruzuki special branching would be pretty trollish.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 04:13 AM
@goesto11 (http://www.himeuta.net/members/3908-goesto11/) @Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/)

The cause of death of Tanaka will probably be "drowned in a mountain of salt"

Teruzuki special branching would be downright evil, but that's why it'd be so hilarious. I can imagine they'll probably allow other options such as Naganami or Kuroshio though, depending on how rare a DD they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyM6IcHYgs

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1963463

Leyana
11-04-2015, 04:15 AM
EchIII There's 'trollish' and then there's 'fuck this I'm out'. Teruzuki branching is the latter.

Tiggyz
11-04-2015, 04:16 AM
Hmm a transport mission. Maybe we will get a Kamikaze class destroyer out of this (i'm 90% sure that isn't going to happen but who knows)

goesto11
11-04-2015, 04:19 AM
Leyana : Eh, no comment about my Takao/Atago and/or Nagara/Sendai branching guess?

somniare
11-04-2015, 04:23 AM
Teruzuki = passive searchlight? LOL

Archaide
11-04-2015, 04:27 AM
The amount of tears that would flow if there was Teruzuki branching would kinda be funny but messed up at the same time :(

EchIII
11-04-2015, 04:33 AM
@Archaide (http://www.himeuta.net/members/2516-archaide/) @Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/)

Tassafaronga Order of Battle:
Takanami, Oyashio, Kuroshio, Kagero, Makinami, Naganami, Kawakaze, and Suzukaze with flagship Teruzuki

Looks like either Oyashio or Makinami may be the drops, with one of those other DDs being responsible for branching.


RAIN YOUR DOWNVOTES UPON ME

http://i.imgur.com/3TPe1fh.png

Jifaru
11-04-2015, 04:35 AM
EchIII Is it bad that I have none of the ships in the first square and all the ships in the other squares

EchIII
11-04-2015, 04:43 AM
Jifaru

I don't know, I'm in the same position except that I've a trained Kagerou but have no Naganami; I'm mostly here for the salt.

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 04:50 AM
I've got all of those except Takanami. And in the off chance that Suzukaze is chosen, I've actually put some levels into her.

Leyana
11-04-2015, 04:57 AM
Jifaru Not like they're hard to get. All the ships in the first square are my expedition ships so they're all 60+ by now.

Jifaru
11-04-2015, 04:59 AM
EchIII You gotta dial up the illiteracy for the salt.

I never really outgrew my F2P paranoia of running out of slots. I guess it's because I still continuously run out of slots.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 05:03 AM
Jifaru

Start spending more money, hate your wallet, go flip burgers at Maccas, two hours of work gets you thirty more slots for your submarines.

In other news, a genuine question, I'm trying to find the best way of giving advice to others, but I've been noticing that my fake-chuuni style doesn't always rub people the right way in these forums, how do you all usually do it?

somniare
11-04-2015, 05:04 AM
Leyana
:yahagi_sad: like half of my expedition DD are my combat DD, pls halp

Leyana
11-04-2015, 05:10 AM
somniare It's fine, they can pull double duty.

Perzeval
11-04-2015, 06:18 AM
EchIII
It just needs one guy to follow you around and downvote every single post you make. The reputation system here is not very well-thought, but on the other hand, if you are asking for it...

Ontopic: I don't think the branching rules will depend heavily on specific ships this time. And even if there are some, it doesn't mean it's always the best choice. Last event we had a specific branching rule for the Yasen node in E-6 and it sucked. A lot.

goesto11
11-04-2015, 06:21 AM
Last event we had a specific branching rule for the Yasen node in E-6 and it sucked. A lot.

Yeah, I never did understand the point of that. O.o

Archaide
11-04-2015, 06:31 AM
E-6 with 4 CLT (3+Abu) was still the best part of the event for me~

velocius
11-04-2015, 07:57 AM
Why would Teruzuki branching be Trollish?

Nowaki gave special branching the event after hers as well and i can't remeber there being much salt about it? Or do you all means teruzuki exclusive branching? (Nowaki + maikaze could be replaced by Akashi or Katori IIRC)

Sheba
11-04-2015, 08:26 AM
Event details: Smuggle stuff in southern seas.

Night battle-only maps. Have fun.

Emerald Acid
11-04-2015, 08:46 AM
velocius Probably just because of how massive of an extent her rarity is. I think the numbers that were thrown around about Summer were that maybe 20% of all players that participated in the event were actually able to get her.

It was some abysmally, unprecedentedly low number.

DLRevan
11-04-2015, 08:57 AM
Frankly speaking, I don't expect this event to be difficult in any conceivable way. So if Teruzuki genuinely has special branching it'll ultimately not be necessary and alternative branching will still be palatable. It'll just be a nice treat for the few who have her.

Sneaking about could be Yasen nodes, but I'll bet they'll be easy too. Like poor enemy formations or something.

They can always ramp up the difficulty for the dedicated players by including a map with a new ship as a drop, have it drop decently at a different end node from the boss node which is harder to get to and harder to clear, while the drop rate at the boss itself is made exceedingly low. Rare drop hunting is always a great source of salt for the masochists.

ogorhan
11-04-2015, 09:25 AM
Inb4 Teruzuki appears at event, oh the salt that would ensue. But hey Yuu was avaible immediatly the event after the was introduced as a drop.

As for the event itself, hmm Transport mission eh? So lots of DD/CL and night nodes? Oh god I can see it 3x Ri Flagship Kai shooter nodes everywhere.

inazuma121
11-04-2015, 10:06 AM
Next event has to do with raiding, eh?



I call it, the next large gaijin is Scharnhorst

mickeygame
11-04-2015, 11:03 AM
Is it just me that worry because they didn't announce that there is difficulty selection yet.

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kuavera
11-04-2015, 11:06 AM
Is it just me that worry because they didn't announce that there is difficulty selection yet.

The chances that there'll be no difficulty selection are pretty much nonexistent.

EchIII
11-04-2015, 11:15 AM
Why would Teruzuki branching be Trollish?

Nowaki gave special branching the event after hers as well and i can't remeber there being much salt about it? Or do you all means teruzuki exclusive branching? (Nowaki + maikaze could be replaced by Akashi or Katori IIRC)

Teruzuki's obtain rate was only 45%, one of the lowest of all events.


@velocius (http://www.himeuta.net/members/4321-velocius/) Probably just because of how massive of an extent her rarity is. I think the numbers that were thrown around about Summer were that maybe 20% of all players that participated in the event were actually able to get her.

It was some abysmally, unprecedentedly low number.

It was 45%, not 20%

Sources 1 (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/640779095027007488) and 2 (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/640779095027007488)


Inb4 Teruzuki appears at event, oh the salt that would ensue. But hey Yuu was avaible immediatly the event after the was introduced as a drop.

As for the event itself, hmm Transport mission eh? So lots of DD/CL and night nodes? Oh god I can see it 3x Ri Flagship Kai shooter nodes everywhere.

I got Teruzuki and love her exclusivity to bits, but in terms of fairness, I would actually say that Teruzuki dropping at this event would actually be a very good move by the devs to those who wound up sacrificing their chances at E7 because they went for the catapult instead.

If those who failed to get the catapult can now get the catapult, the smart thing to do would be to compensate those who went for the catapult with Teruzuki.

There is the issue of Teruzuki being farmed for her 10cmFDs, but I'd think that making her like an Akashi 2-5 drop (i.e. she drops once only for those who don't have her) might help get around that.

That way, those who missed Teruzuki can get her, and those with the extra catapult still have that extra catapult (it had better be for something damn good like Kaga K2).

The only problem with this is that it winds up rewarding those who prioritised the catapult because now they get their extra catapult AND get to have teruzuki.

What do you think?

nwrtz
11-04-2015, 11:55 AM
Is this the event when re-class is finally released from her prison?

Tune in next time for the introduction of re-class flagship on everyones favourite spot, the pre boss node.

Fonek
11-04-2015, 05:14 PM
Well maybe if event is going to take 2 weeks they might give only 4 maps? I wouldn't mind if they actually just give 4 maps after that summer.

somniare
11-04-2015, 05:18 PM
Here's to hoping that we get a foreign CV so we can use that 3rd catapult!

Obsidian
11-04-2015, 05:20 PM
EchIII I think Akizuki would be a fitting replacement for Teruzuki, but that's probably just because I got Teru and don't have Ducky. Hell, maybe they'll even introduce a new Akizuki-class DD. Still though, this event will mark a full year since Akizuki's release, I'm really hoping her and Prinz will be obtainable in some way.

S.Razelrink
11-04-2015, 06:05 PM
with merely three days following the commencement of the fall event (before I leave overseas to the place where the game itself was developed for two weeks exactly), this will have to be the first time where I may have to try fleet compositions before results come out. totally not looking forward to sleepless nights of RNG-fuelled frustration and level-minded deprivation.....

Megusan
11-04-2015, 06:46 PM
Hoping my Haruna K2 and my coming Tone K2 + Haguro K2 will be able to help me (Haruna is 90 rn so no problem, but Tone and Haguro... mid-40s...)
Sendai and Ushio will be happy though, been a long time last they did an event other than E-1 farm

Surted
11-04-2015, 09:11 PM
with merely three days following the commencement of the fall event (before I leave overseas to the place where the game itself was developed for two weeks exactly), this will have to be the first time where I may have to try fleet compositions before results come out. totally not looking forward to sleepless nights of RNG-fuelled frustration and level-minded deprivation.....

why can't you play the game there? :P

EchIII
11-05-2015, 01:23 AM
The latest tweet announced that the event would involve a transport mission to a round shaped island (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/662067329895788544)

Of the Solomon islands, only Kolombangara really fits the bill of this, the most notable battle around that island was Vella Gulf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vella_Gulf). The DDs involved were Kawakaze, Shigure, Arashi, and Hagikaze.

http://www.surfsolomons.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/solomon-island-map.jpg

http://www.world-of-islands.com/images/Fiches/Salomon/Ghizo_Kolombangara_Ranongga_plus.gif

somniare
11-05-2015, 01:24 AM
MY JINTSUU IS READY

goesto11
11-05-2015, 01:30 AM
@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): Well, if that comment below the tweet speculating Kolombangara as the "circular island", then event might be based (at least in part) on the Battle of Kolombangara (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kolombangara)(which involved the "Tokyo Express")

Leyana
11-05-2015, 01:33 AM
goesto11 Returning to the Solomons.

EchIII
11-05-2015, 01:34 AM
goesto11

That should be the case, that means we now have Mikazuki, Satsuki, Yukikaze, and Hamakaze as the ships involved, with Kiyonami, Yuugure, Minazuki, Yunagi, and Matsukaze as potential new ships.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 01:41 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): Looks that way.

@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): Don't forget Jintsuu

Leyana
11-05-2015, 01:44 AM
Doesn't look like it was a big engagement. Maybe we'll be let off nice.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 01:45 AM
Leyana: Fall 2014 redux?

somniare
11-05-2015, 01:46 AM
goesto11
I smell tanaka's shit from miles away. You think abukuma can get around the clt ban? think again. Jintsuu is getting special branching, kappa.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 01:49 AM
somniare Even if that's the case, fine by me. Jintsuu Kai ni was the "go to"/best stats CL before Abukuma Kai ni showed up. Still one of the best CL even now IMO.

somniare
11-05-2015, 01:51 AM
goesto11
I just want to use the CLTs I have :yahagi_sad: I wonder if we'll see more fleet speed branching this time around.

jammertime
11-05-2015, 01:52 AM
We've had hints before iirc that either Arashi or Hagikaze were on the way, this seems to solidify that since they both were involved at Vella Gulf weren't they

goesto11
11-05-2015, 01:58 AM
@jammertime (http://www.himeuta.net/members/5347-jammertime/): Yes. for the Battle of Vella Gulf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vella_Gulf), on the IJN side. Hagikaze, Arashi, Shigure, and Kawakaze Possible that this event covers both battles (assuming I'm right about Kolombangara being the island hinted at in the tweet).

EchIII
11-05-2015, 02:11 AM
somniare

In a conventional day fight I'd still take Jintsuu over Abukuma since ABKM's opening torp advantage is greatly diminished when a second shelling round is involved.

It looks like Arashi may be coming, I get the feeling that she'll be one of the least popular DDs in the game.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 02:14 AM
It looks like Arashi may be coming, I get the feeling that she'll be one of the least popular DDs in the game.

Why one of the least popular?

jammertime
11-05-2015, 02:17 AM
goesto11 Arashi was infamous for being involved with Midway and basically gave up the position of Kaga and Akagi to the planes that would end up sinking them iirc

goesto11
11-05-2015, 02:23 AM
jammertime: I know about McClusky's decision to continue and Arashi's role in all that, but this is a game - right? Besides, it's not like Arashi hung around just so McClusky could spot her. Quite a fortuitous chain of events for the USN that day.

EchIII
11-05-2015, 02:24 AM
goesto11

She was basically responsible for getting Cardivs 1 and 2 annihilated at midway since she was catching up to the fleet after hunting USS nautilus, and basically acted as a gigantic "follow me" sign for the dive bombers that were otherwise completely lost.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 02:30 AM
EchIII: See my above reply. I guess if people are going to hate KanColle Arashi for that, we can forget about Allied ships in the game, especially USN ships.

EchIII
11-05-2015, 02:31 AM
goesto11

Dat ninjapost.

Well, it looks like this game is forming up to become Axis Powers Kancollia anyway, I doubt that allied ships would be added.

goesto11
11-05-2015, 02:34 AM
EchIII: Agree about Allied ships being added. Very low possibility, if at all IMO. Wouldn't mind it though...

Tiggyz
11-05-2015, 02:35 AM
It seems that I-8 and Makigumo will get a new friend if they decide to add Arashi as a event reward

dranzerstar
11-05-2015, 03:03 AM
http://puu.sh/l9Pni/de0cbfc374.png
enemy meantsuu confirmed

somniare
11-05-2015, 03:07 AM
dranzerstar
RNGesus helps us all. Abyssal getting NB equipment :yahagi_wat:

DuckiePlucky
11-05-2015, 03:07 AM
somniare Nope! -jumps out a window-

DoraGrailMon
11-05-2015, 03:13 AM
dranzerstar

Are we sure the new avatar's not just because her AGP is coming out?

Strafe
11-05-2015, 03:24 AM
@Strafe (http://www.himeuta.net/members/4153-strafe/) Most people knew when to give up and go easy.

Believe me if it weren't for the difficulty lock after clearing the map or I knew in advance that easy will bring me Unryuu I would have never tried clearing that map on Medium, it was also my first attempt on clearing an event map on medium as well so I was hyped but my triumphant first attempt wasn't all that is cracked up to be in the end.

Shishouro
11-05-2015, 03:59 AM
goesto11 I am not so sure people will hate Arashi.

It is hard to know what someone else is thinking, if they don't tell you directly. Most of the people I know in Japan, do not show an animosity to Americans. Even the few with whom the subject of War or WWII came up, didn't show any reaction that made me think they were bothered by it. You have to remember, that the younger crowd were not even born when all that happened. Since then, the country has held strong pacifist beliefs. If I had to hazard any conclusion, I would say that most of the people I interacted with seem to disapprove of War, and believe Imperial Japan was wrong to pursue it.

There may be some who shun Arashi for her part, but I am not sure it will bother many people. I think most would just look at her as a part of history.


I am not bothered by it, and will base my reception of Arashi on how cute she looks, but....... that is just me.

S.Razelrink
11-05-2015, 06:50 AM
why can't you play the game there? :P

I'm travelling with a friend and I reeeeally don't want to sit there playing kancolle at the hostel because I'm guessing the event is going to take a few hours.. or maybe a few minutes if I'm really lucky and can complete the final map in a small handful of attempts!

we'll just have to see how nice the rewards are! if they decide to give out the foreign ships as the reward for the final map, then I suppose I'll have no choice but to (cringe) play kancolle while travelling... but this is only if I'm unable to complete the event before I leave!

velocius
11-05-2015, 07:30 AM
It looks like Arashi may be coming, I get the feeling that she'll be one of the least popular DDs in the game.

Aren't the japanese really big on the clumsy girls though? or is it the Americans that are big on them?

EchIII
11-05-2015, 07:35 AM
Shishouro

It's not the Japanese I'd be scared of, it's the CarDiv fan clubs.
velocius

They are, though the way I see it, Arashi will be to the Kaga Fan Club what Jar Jar Binks is to Star Wars fans.

Agckuu Coceg
11-05-2015, 08:54 AM
@Shishouro (http://www.himeuta.net/members/604-shishouro/)

It's not the Japanese I'd be scared of, it's the CarDiv fan clubs.
@velocius (http://www.himeuta.net/members/4321-velocius/)

They are, though the way I see it, Arashi will be to the Kaga Fan Club what Jar Jar Binks is to Star Wars fans.

Not more to Kaga than to the lesser Fluffy Dragons club.

Apox
11-05-2015, 12:50 PM
Aww, that Hearthstone Jintsuu card was perfect! Can you drop a copy of it on my deck, dranzerstar?:kongou_grin:

dranzerstar
11-05-2015, 01:30 PM
Apox Please excuse the non-weeb me.I promise it will be yugioh next time.

Fazel
11-06-2015, 01:51 AM
First Abyssal Naka, now Abyssal Jintsuu.

All we need now is Abyssal Sendai.

Akuser
11-06-2015, 02:21 AM
Is this the event when re-class is finally released from her prison?

Tune in next time for the introduction of re-class flagship on everyones favourite spot, the pre boss node.

In my fantasy land: from her stats and strange design beside the Abyssal, i think Re-chon is a princess from old Dynasty that fall to Abyssal, that why she is stronger than any himes but still a normal mob status, they're fear to release her so that why she is only playing around 5-5.

laser
11-06-2015, 06:56 AM
Is this the event when re-class is finally released from her prison?

Tune in next time for the introduction of re-class flagship on everyones favourite spot, the pre boss node.

I refuse to get my hopes up for this again. tanaka you evil bastard WHY YOU KEEP WAIFU FROM ME!!?!

mickeygame
11-06-2015, 07:04 AM
I refuse to get my hopes up for this again. tanaka you evil bastard WHY YOU KEEP WAIFU FROM ME!!?!
You can go visit ur waifu in 5-5

Unless you want to spread the love to every teitoku [emoji14]

Watching the sea burn or something like that.

Sixpack
11-07-2015, 12:56 AM
laser

He is taking his energy from your torment. Got to sustain himself somehow :D

EchIII
11-07-2015, 01:00 AM
Remember that Jurassic Park has a lesson about doing 5-5 (https://youtu.be/mRNX6XJOeGU?t=39s).

Leyana
11-08-2015, 10:02 PM
laser You can sink her on a regular basis. Good enough.

Shinhwa
11-10-2015, 01:09 AM
"Admirals planning on clearing all of the Maps of the Event in Medium or Hard will require several amount of Ships"

THIS SMELLS LIKE SHIP LOCKING


https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/663884408374452224

Leyana
11-10-2015, 01:13 AM
Shinhwa I think we can pretty much expect ship locking from here on out.

goesto11
11-10-2015, 01:13 AM
@Shinhwa (http://www.himeuta.net/members/727-shinhwa/): Fleet locking's a given.

[Edit: ninja'd again LOL]

Broski Kyoujin
11-10-2015, 06:11 AM
Are they going to remove all the fall furniture from the game after this patch or will they do that at the end of the event?

EchIII
11-10-2015, 12:53 PM
Agckuu Coceg

Since we were discussing Arashi, I saw this idea on how to possibly save her reputation: Instead of making her one of those girls with a persecution complex like Akebono, make her a dojikko, it'd be hilarious.

Yamako
11-10-2015, 09:11 PM
Defense lowering mechanic.

Maximum cansir and salt achieved.

Conclusion: Fuck you Tanaka.

ChuuniSama
11-10-2015, 11:13 PM
EchIII A dojikko who's a total crybaby would be the best possible outcome (I think I'm just biased by my love for Ushio)

dranzerstar
11-11-2015, 01:26 AM
Not Battle of Ormoc Bay
DDs main force
1CL 5DD all maps every map

http://puu.sh/lgalT/13b8775673.png

goesto11
11-11-2015, 01:31 AM
dranzerstar: Well, can't be all CL/DD maps with combined fleet (unless they come up with some weird DD based combined fleet). Still, more "DD heavy event" tweets. Makes me wonder if final EO map will be combined fleet or perhaps CL/DD single fleet (ala 3-2). If nothing else, a DD heavy event should be light on the resources (except maybe repair buckets).

ofi123
11-11-2015, 01:32 AM
inb4 18 drums requirement to reach the end.

EchIII
11-11-2015, 01:32 AM
ChuuniSama

There's a reason I recommended Ushio K2 over freaking Fubuki and the DesDiv 6 K2s in my guide, because Ushio.
dranzerstar

Was anybody expecting Ormoc bay anyway? Aren't we all preparing for Kolombangara?

Marez
11-11-2015, 01:32 AM
dranzerstar

Why not CL Hime?

goesto11
11-11-2015, 01:36 AM
ofi123: LOL

ExDii07
11-11-2015, 05:17 AM
I think I'm not reading the stuff right, is it already confirmed to be the Battle of Ormoc Bay?
Anyone know which ships participated there? I've seen that Hatsushimo was somehow involved.

Leyana
11-11-2015, 05:26 AM
ExDii07 They said it wasn't the Battle of Ormoc Bay.

Raven
11-11-2015, 06:18 AM
Battle of Kolombangara, the battle where Jintsuu ended up like Akatsuki. This shall be interesting because I intend on making my Jintsuu Kai Ni my flagship for this operation.

DLRevan
11-11-2015, 06:41 AM
Train your DDs, prepare your torpedo squadron, ensure your CLs and DDs are ready, a strong force of DDs is required.....I get it devs.....


MIRO....my complete fleet of Kai Ni Destroyers! Throw in even a new Abyssal Jintsuu Light Cruiser Hime or something], my destroyers will take on any challenge! Even an Air Defense Hime 2nd round final dance. Even.....well, maybe that's the limit.

DDcolle indeed.

Etrigan
11-11-2015, 08:19 AM
I think they're overselling it. All this dev hinting at needing DDs is going to wind up as relevant as all the 'prepare your baux!' hints from the previous events.

LunaWillow
11-11-2015, 08:55 AM
DDs? Ah, are you serious? My DDs are my weaker points, I focused on leveling stronger ships...

mickeygame
11-11-2015, 10:02 AM
DDs? Ah, are you serious? My DDs are my weaker points, I focused on leveling stronger ships...
DD always required for event, at most 4-5 for easy map that req. lots of DD.

And about 10 on heavy fleet lock event

But well, this event shouldn't be heavy fleet lock and you might want to go easy in case of rare ships farming.
5 should be fine for easy, I supposed.

DLRevan
11-11-2015, 10:14 AM
I think they're overselling it. All this dev hinting at needing DDs is going to wind up as relevant as all the 'prepare your baux!' hints from the previous events.

Of course they're overselling it. They always do it, and there's some other thing that massively fucks us up in the end. Or the event ends up being easy.

But its rather entertaining, they never stressed DDs to this extent before.

Sheba
11-11-2015, 10:34 AM
Just field your Kagerou and Yuugumo class for the early maps and keep the likes of Poi and Zekamashi for the end.

honglong17
11-11-2015, 05:01 PM
it quite lucky that i do train a batch of DD after the last event, now with 8 DD lv 80-90 & 6 DD lv 80-70 , i can accept what ever fleet lock that dev throw at

Betel
11-11-2015, 06:19 PM
Uhm so it's going to be night battle galore and/or troll subs? There is no other way to make a torpedo fleet map challenging, since normal day time nodes with enemy light fleets can be wiped out by support expedition.

Obsidian
11-11-2015, 06:24 PM
Betel Maybe they'll do something with support expeditions akin to the way they work outside of events, i.e. only working on specific/later maps. As of now, the non-event support expeditions only work on world 5.

chronomeister
11-11-2015, 06:33 PM
Maybe we will see the return of Yasen followed by Day battles in which having those DDs/CLs means less ships to clean up in the day battle. Pure speculation here.

Agckuu Coceg
11-11-2015, 10:27 PM
@Agckuu Coceg (http://www.himeuta.net/members/4744-agckuu-coceg/)

Since we were discussing Arashi, I saw this idea on how to possibly save her reputation: Instead of making her one of those girls with a persecution complex like Akebono, make her a dojikko, it'd be hilarious.

We already have the Dojikko Queen Mogami and Dojikko Princess Inazuma, we don't need any dojikko ships for now.

Sheba
11-11-2015, 11:37 PM
Perhaps a sickly girl who is bad at sports and complain about how she cant catch up to her comrades because of that.

Shinhwa
11-12-2015, 01:21 AM
Akizuki CONFIRMED FOR DROP IN FALL 2015 EVENT

Fall 2015 Event is called: [Charge! Maritime Transport Operation!], where the focus is use of Highly Leveled Destroyers as core importance.

There will be maps requiring use of Heavy Caliber ships such as CVs and BBs (Mostly likely directs to Combined Fleet Maps)
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/664613040071946241

somniare
11-12-2015, 01:23 AM
Hnnngghh all those 10cm + aafd waiting to be farmed.

ofi123
11-12-2015, 01:23 AM
Let the 10cm HAFD farm commence!

somniare
11-12-2015, 01:27 AM
ofi123
watch it be same rate as shioi during summer lol

NanoKhoroDesuSho
11-12-2015, 01:28 AM
Now all we need is pudding...please :'-)

ofi123
11-12-2015, 01:30 AM
somniare

Well, she IS rainbow rarity so that much is expected.

ExDii07
11-12-2015, 01:32 AM
*Praying to every single high power for easy mode drops.*

Leyana
11-12-2015, 01:34 AM
ExDii07 I'll place my bets on med+.

ExDii07
11-12-2015, 01:38 AM
Leyana hence why I'm now groveling before the Chaos Lords for some miraculous Warp shenanigans to have her as an easy drop.

todkapuz
11-12-2015, 01:40 AM
and Akizuki will drop this next event eh...

Laisy
11-12-2015, 01:49 AM
Akizuki is a drop? I smell 10cm HA+FD farm

ogorhan
11-12-2015, 01:50 AM
Finally the dream is coming true, Akizuki is going to drop, all we need now is Prinz Eugen to drop too (at the least for people who dont have em if devs are worried about equipment farming.).

Marez
11-12-2015, 01:51 AM
Yay Akizuki! I wonder if they'll make it so that we can only keep one. But there'll always be people who are brave enough to scrap and farm...

Laisy
11-12-2015, 01:54 AM
Yay Akizuki! I wonder if they'll make it so that we can only keep one. But there'll always be people who are brave enough to scrap and farm...

inb4 you can only get 1 Akizuki per event.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 01:58 AM
It's been a year so about time Akizuki showed up again. GL to those who don't have her. Hopefully it won't be a fraction of a percent drop rate. Unless I'm missing something, nothing else of importance in the latest tweet. Standard "get your DD ready" statement along with BB/CV will also take part which is no surprise given previous tweets about combined fleet in the event.

@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): Agree. Wouldn't surprise me if drop only on Medium+. That would remove the farm on Easy before clearing on Med/Hard tactic. Those who really want Akizuki are probably best served not to rush the events until some reliable information about where she drops and at what level of difficulty is ascertained.

Marez
11-12-2015, 01:59 AM
Laisy

I'm fine wih it tbh. I just want Akizuki and pudding!

Leyana
11-12-2015, 02:00 AM
goesto11 Psh. Waiting and seeing is always the best thing to do for any event.

Laisy
11-12-2015, 02:01 AM
Wait, where is the "prepare your bauxite" tweet?

Ghoulvarine
11-12-2015, 02:04 AM
Laisy I've been preparing nonetheless, but a certain queen keeps hogging them.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 02:04 AM
@Laisy (http://www.himeuta.net/members/153-laisy/): Has there ever been a limitation like that for drops other than "if you don't have xyz already" type situations? Just curious. Doesn't matter to me if that's the case (or even if Akizuki is limited to those who don't have her already).

@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): I know. Just throwing it out there for first event TTK. :D

Leyana
11-12-2015, 02:20 AM
goesto11 That should be the top line in any event page bolded, red and font size HUGE.

DLRevan
11-12-2015, 02:22 AM
If she's not limited I'm getting at least two of her this event, damn whatever node she appears at and at what drop rate. What is sleep? What is resources? My DDs shall have their 10cmHAFDs....

DuckiePlucky
11-12-2015, 02:25 AM
@Shinhwa (http://www.himeuta.net/members/727-shinhwa/) My reaction in a nutshell to this glorious news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

PLEASE TANAKA FFS LET'S US EASY MODERS HAVE HER TOO!!!!! :kongou_sad:

ExDii07
11-12-2015, 02:25 AM
*Still prostrated on the ground praying for easy drop*

Leyana
11-12-2015, 02:30 AM
ExDii07 Prostration doesn't work. Sucking dick on the other hand...

goesto11
11-12-2015, 02:33 AM
The Akizuki drop tweet makes me think Niizuki is all the more likely as an event prize. Have to admit, curious as to the "new large foreign ship". Be nice if devs tweeted ship class.

oriscus
11-12-2015, 02:50 AM
Be nice if devs tweeted ship class.
Might make it too obvious?

goesto11
11-12-2015, 02:58 AM
@oriscus (http://www.himeuta.net/members/64-oriscus/): Depends on one's perspective. Didn't they tweet ship class (BB) for Spring 2015? Was that so bad? To be clear, it's not a huge issue either way. Just curious and a bit impatient I suppose. We'll find out in a week.

Leyana
11-12-2015, 03:01 AM
goesto11 Large is CA and up.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 03:16 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): I know that. BB, CV, or CA (or theoretically BC) specifically,

Ghoulvarine
11-12-2015, 03:17 AM
Leyana So all aux ships are considered small then?

Leyana
11-12-2015, 03:22 AM
Ghoulvarine Displacement wise.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 03:32 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): Question, are CVL "large"? I recall the issue coming up during Winter 2015 for that one good DD grinding map. Can't remember, but also wasn't there some question back then about whether CLT are "large" (not that I'm suggesting the "new large foreign ship will be a CVL or CLT)?

Leyana
11-12-2015, 03:40 AM
goesto11 Perhaps. I always see Ryuujou's chest and put them in the light category.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 03:42 AM
@Leyana (http://www.himeuta.net/members/29-leyana/): LOL. That being said, if you look at Hamakaze, does that mean DD are "large ships"? :P

[Edit] To get (somewhat) back on topic, pretty sure that "large" =/= capital ships which for WWII were limited to BC (not in the game), BB and CV, but not CA with the Deutschland-class and by some the Alaska class considered exceptions (though really I think those two would fall under BC anyway).

Emerald Acid
11-12-2015, 03:47 AM
Leyana That was uncalled for =c

Leyana
11-12-2015, 04:00 AM
Emerald Acid It's always time for potshots.

goesto11 But CA and bigger is usually a good assumption.

EchIII
11-12-2015, 05:39 AM
@goesto11 (http://www.himeuta.net/members/3908-goesto11/)

The battlecruiser designation is CC, not BC. That's important because battlecruisers technically fall under Cruisers and not Battleships.

I really want to see how Deutschland-Class cruisers will be handled..... I've said this many times already too.

When they say large ship, I tend to think capital ships, which tend to be BB and CV level, instead of CAs.

Broski Kyoujin
11-12-2015, 06:05 AM
Akizuki confirmed a drop so I'm happy. If only Prinz Eugen would follow. Maybe some of that Amagi too. Knowing Tanaka though its probably just Akizuki. Oh well, I'll get to reunite the sisters at least.

dranzerstar
11-12-2015, 06:24 AM
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kantamashi/imgs/a/d/ad882f37.gif
here is an image of stuff happened around Kolomobogoro island for ships that was implemented, also all of them are night battles,
now prepare the boats for special branching.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 06:49 AM
@EchIII (http://www.himeuta.net/members/13388-echiii/): I've seen BC (most common), CC (USN only AFAIK, and never used operationally - intended for Lexington class battlecruisers which were designed with eight 16" guns) and CB (USN Alaska class). Not sure what the IJN, RN, etc. used for battlecruisers. There's more to the issue than simply hull classifications. If you look at the Washington Naval Treaty and subsequent London Naval Treaties, classifications were based upon both hull displacement and main gun caliber. For the Washington Naval Treaty, capital ships (which included both battleships and battlecruisers) were limited to 35,000 tons standard displacement and guns of no larger than 16-inch calibre. (Articles V and VI). Except for aircraft carriers, all other warships were limited to a maximum displacement of 10,000 tons and a maximum gun calibre of 8 inches. (Articles XI and XII). The London Naval Treaty then separated cruisers into "light cruisers" (in unofficial parlance) with up to 6.1" (155mm) guns and "heavy cruisers" with up to 8"/203mm guns.

So I don't think it's simply a matter of latching on to a particular (and never used) hull classification as definitely stating that battle cruisers = cruisers (and they certainly were considered "capital ships" - something CA were not). Battlecruisers are just as the name suggests - a hybrid of a battleship and a cruiser. Keep the big guns and ditch armor in a trade for cruiser like speed. Fast floating glass cannons if you will. Frankly, when you consider that famous battlecruisers such as HMS Hood, Renown and Repulse all carried 15" guns not to mention considerable displacement, such battlecruisers are more battleship than cruiser. The Deutschland-Class (classified as Panzerschiffe ("armored ships") and coined "pocket battleships") are much closer to CA displacement (15k tons vs. 10k tons treaty limit for CA) and main gun caliber (11" vs. 8"). They also carried torpedo tubes ala CA (well, some CA depending upon the nation), though ironically had BB like top speed (about as fast as Yamato/Musashi). They were thinly armored as well.

Personally, I think battlecruisers are separate class unto themselves, and not heavy cruisers. There's nothing stopping the devs from adding a BC/CC/CB (take your pick) classification in the game. As their own class, they could be treated like CLT are for CL (i.e. often not interchangeable with CA) when it comes to branching and such. As for the Deutschland-class, the problem is game play balance. Gonna have to nerf something because if you give them CA Kai ni level torp stat, they'll be too hax/op as cruisers (maybe overall) unless you rein in firepower because they "only" had six 11" guns. In that case, then perhaps something along the lines of Haguro Kai ni or Choukai Kai ni. Even then, the larger main gun firepower stat will come into play. The other option is to limit torp stat similar to (but not necessarily quite as low) Bismarck Drei.

- - - Updated - - -
dranzerstar: Very nice pic. :kongou_happy: However, is the Battle of Empress Augusta Bay off the coast of Bouganville really considered part of the naval battles around Kolombangara?

Broski Kyoujin
11-12-2015, 06:55 AM
dranzerstar I have a feeling Kawakaze will be used for special branching. Fuck, she's only level 12

Emerald Acid
11-12-2015, 07:19 AM
>Sees sunken Nagatsuki.

Noooooooooooooooo. She was my favorite of her class. She deserved better than that.

That said, if she gives special branching, I am ready for it. Provided it isn't a late event map.

goesto11
11-12-2015, 07:33 AM
Broski Kyoujin: I'm thinking that Isokaze (who took part in the Naval Battle of Vella Lavella) will have some special branching. Right before the event (saury fishing deal), the devs made her a very farmable drop for those who didn't have her already. Timing is a bit too suspicious.

Broski Kyoujin
11-12-2015, 07:35 AM
goesto11 Good thing I just got Isokaze Kai then :D

DoraGrailMon
11-12-2015, 07:44 AM
Oh how nice, I'll just panic grind every DD up to Kai once I'm done with EO.



coughs blood



Damn I hate DD grind. At least it's only Isokaze, Kawakaze, and Kazagumo to work on. Booty-zuki is at 60 at least, so at least that's one DD out of the picture. If Libecchini is required for branching, I'm going to be head banging my desk for a good 30 minutes.

Penguinmafia
11-12-2015, 07:55 AM
akizuki drop...... BUT WAT ABOUT PRINGLES?!?!?!?!

Sheba
11-12-2015, 10:27 AM
Akizuki is a drop? I smell 10cm HA+FD farm
Likely a one-time only occurence, like Akashi.

Laisy
11-12-2015, 10:28 AM
BUT WAT ABOUT PRINGLES?!?!?!?!

You can buy them from nearby convenient stores

inazuma121
11-12-2015, 10:59 AM
Akizuki drop, eh? Bring it on! I'll be ready....I think?

Also, as the tweets go on I'm thinking more and more that this new foreigner is one of the German 28cm ships. It's telling how the devs keep on mentioning "large ship" and nothing else; usually they announce what class of ship it is outright. That'd fit in with the German 28cm ships, as not even the Germans knew how to classify some of them......and how they were commerce raiders while this event is modeled off a transport operation.

Just my two cents

LunaWillow
11-12-2015, 01:30 PM
Oh my, Akizuki drop?!

...she's gonna be hard only, isn't she?

Tribell
11-12-2015, 01:39 PM
*looks at DD's and CL's*

37 Destroyers and 15 Light Cruisers over level 60. I'm good.

Also, about time devs are starting to make Akizuki available for someone else than participants of last year fall event. I predict that Prinz Eugen will be LSC craftable during or right after the event.

Ferdinand
11-12-2015, 01:40 PM
ExDii07 Prostration doesn't work. Sucking dick on the other hand...Knew there was a reason to keep Hayasui.

mickeygame
11-12-2015, 02:57 PM
Just some random facts.
Today in 1944 is the day that Tirpitz sunk.

Coincidence?

Well. I hope not.

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Sixpack
11-12-2015, 03:15 PM
So I don't think it's simply a matter of latching on to a particular (and never used) hull classification as definitely stating that battle cruisers = cruisers (and they certainly were considered "capital ships" - something CA were not). Battlecruisers are just as the name suggests - a hybrid of a battleship and a cruiser. Keep the big guns and ditch armor in a trade for cruiser like speed. Fast floating glass cannons if you will. Frankly, when you consider that famous battlecruisers such as HMS Hood, Renown and Repulse all carried 15" guns not to mention considerable displacement, such battlecruisers are more battleship than cruiser.


I take issue with this.

Mainly because german battlecruisers did not work on that principal. It was instead sacrificing firepower for staying power while trying to keep the speed.

So there are multiple concepts on how to design your battlecruiser.

soloblast
11-12-2015, 04:47 PM
@goesto11 (http://www.himeuta.net/members/3908-goesto11/) has already mentioned most of this, but whatever.

I don't think anyone actually knows how to classify a warship as a battlecruiser, strictly speaking, if only because the term has become so muddled in terms of its definition. And then there's other things, like pocket battleships, as mentioned several pages back; simply put, everyone - oh, fine, mostly the Axis Powers - was trying to play around with the Washington Naval Treaty.

I mean, this thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battlecruiser_Pyotr_Velikiy) is a battlecruiser, despite Russian naval classification as a "heavy missile cruiser" (I suppose the nuclear reactor is a factor, though). Much further back, the original Kongou-class was classified as a battlecruiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kong%C5%8D-class_battlecruiser), and only later converted via remodelling to a battleship / fast battleship class.

My point being, beyond the WW1 world, the term "battlecruiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlecruiser)" more or less became this vague, grey, blurry area that covered ships too powerful to be considered heavy cruisers, but not large enough (displacement?) / powerful enough(?) to be considered battleships. Like the wiki page puts it, "The line between the battlecruiser and the modern fast battleship became blurred". If we're talking about something such as the German Scharnhorst-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scharnhorst-class_battleship), I don't think anyone's quite managed to decide whether that class is a battlecruiser or a battleship, for all intents and purposes. (And let's not even get started on the aforementioned pocket battleships, although the definition might be a bit clearer over there.)

TL;DR - No one really knows what the term means, and IMO, given that only the RN continued using the term during the WW2 era, I think it's safe to say that the term itself is/was obsolete... but, for some reason, continues to linger around today, and gives us all a collective headache when we try to split hairs over the definition.

That aside, back on-topic: What are the implications in terms of game mechanics? Assuming that the new foreign warship is indeed one that falls within the broad general definition of "battlecruiser", and seeing as KC doesn't have a battlecruiser class - unless they decide to implement it, which I would consider to be highly unlikely - the question becomes, will it be a CA or an [F]BB? I'm inclined to think [F]BB, given that the Kongou-class ships are already implemented as FBBs. Moreover, you have the Ise-class battleships, whose stats are equal to or just barely above that of your average CA. And the thing about torpedoes? Bismarck Drei has them, so I don't see a problem there. And yes, I'm inclined to think that they would be FBBs, not just BBs, because their speed would be reasonably faster than that of your average BB.

Of course, how much weightage is given to each of their individual stats (FP, Torp, AA, Armour) is another thing entirely.

That said, all of this is merely conjecture, and doesn't really matter all that much when you think about it. Short version: New ship. Maybe drop, maybe reward. Go do event. Acquire ship. Profit. Also, Akizuki, for those of us who don't have her yet.

goesto11
11-13-2015, 12:46 AM
I take issue with this. Mainly because german battlecruisers did not work on that principal. It was instead sacrificing firepower for staying power while trying to keep the speed. So there are multiple concepts on how to design your battlecruiser.

Specifically, which "German battlecruisers"? Also, "staying power" is a bit ambiguous. Do you mean range? If you mean the Scharnhorst-class, the British initially classified them as battlecruisers then after the war reclassified them as battleships. Both the Kriegsmarine itself along with the USN considered them battleships. I think it's worth noting that the proposed successor to the Deutschland-class, the O-class battlecruiser, was originally designated a Panzerschiffe (like the Deutschland-class), then later redesigned with 15" guns rather than 11.1" guns and reclassified as battlecruisers by the Kriegsmarine. The O-class were also designed with significantly thinner armor than the earlier Scharnhorst-class (e.g. 190 mm (7.5 in) vs. 350 mm (13.78 inch) belt armor), and had a design top speed of roughly 34kn. Big guns, (relatively) thin armor, fast speed.

I stand by what I wrote in terms of the characteristics of battlecruisers: Big guns with armor sacrificed for speed. That's the heart of the battlecruiser concept originated by the RN under Admiral Fisher. From Wiki: "They were similar in size and cost to a battleship, and typically carried the same kind of heavy guns, but generally carried less armor and were faster." As soloblast notes, at times the lines of distinction (such as they are) can become blurred, but those general characteristics remain.

@soloblast (http://www.himeuta.net/members/1773-soloblast/): Agree, the term "battlecruiser" is somewhat nebulous though per above, I think some distinguishing characteristics can be gleaned. The concept itself became antiquated with the arrival of fast battleships which combined both speed and armor anyway. As for KanColle classification, hard to say. The devs felt CLT needed distinction from CL, so nothing preventing a BC/CC/CB class introduced. If the devs look at ships from the start WWII onward, then by the beginning of the war, the Kongou class were already upgraded to FBB so I don't think that's dispostive as an example. I'm not saying they would introduce a new class, but I think it could go either way.

As for the Scharnhorst-class, I agree. I think that neatly falls into the FBB category. Shouldn't be a problem implementing them in the game as you suggest. Where things become more difficult IMO in terms of game play balance is something like Deutschland-class which most likely fall into the CA category. Not that I would expect it to happen, but something like the Alaska class "large cruisers" (CB) would actually be a non event - arguably useless as a CA because of the ships' lack of torpedoes and how the game mechanics work for night battle. I suppose there's always the "what if" remodel. ;)

And yes, go do event. Acquire ship. Profit. :kongou_happy:

Shinhwa
11-13-2015, 12:52 AM
Depending on luck, you may obtain some of the previously released Foreign Ships in certain maps of the Event

Prinz Eugen...? NAH~~~~~

https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/664956505242759168

Leyana
11-13-2015, 12:57 AM
Shinhwa Z1 and Z3.

Or Roma for the extra salty ones.

Shinhwa
11-13-2015, 01:00 AM
@Shinhwa (http://www.himeuta.net/members/727-shinhwa/) Z1 and Z3.

Or Roma for the extra salty ones.

Roma and U-511 most likely I guess. Littorio now too I guess...?

Jifaru
11-13-2015, 01:08 AM
My Katsuragichan is almost 150.

I need moar or I can't keep playing this game.

goesto11
11-13-2015, 01:09 AM
Leyana: Awesome, I have yet to build Z3. :P

todkapuz
11-13-2015, 01:12 AM
I'd guess U-511 and Littorio and Roma most likely. As they have made Akizuki a confirmed drop, then there is a possibility of a certain very happy cruiser.... but I still think its very remote.... otherwise this event will have nothing to do with the event, and everything to do with farming ships for radars and guns of love. Would be a game breaker if they did that though.