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    Panicking newbie admiral reporting in

    I started playing KanColle on the 28th (so exactly one month ago) and I've been preparing for the upcoming event based on the suggestions and advice of helpful veteran players. Here are the fruits of my labors:

    Fleet

    Destroyers

    Yuudachi and Shigure leveled up to Kai Ni, loads of other destroyers at Kai but none of them close to K2 yet. I actually might have gone overboard leveling my destroyers in 1-5 because I wanted to get the most out of that map before I eventually hit HQ 80.

    Light Cruisers

    Abukuma, Isuzu and Sendai at Kai Ni, a few others at Kai. As for torpedo cruisers, Kitakami and Ooi (who finally showed up from the standard 250/30/200/30 recipe) are also both at Kai Ni.

    Heavy Cruisers

    Maya at Kai Ni, a few others at Kai. Both aviation cruisers - Kumano and Mogami - are also at Kai.

    Submarines

    From the combat-capable subs, so far I've only got I-168, I-8 and I-58, all somewhat leveled but none at Kai.

    Battleships

    Kongou finally showed up and has caught up to her sisters - all four Kongou-class ships are at Kai and quite leveled. I'm also leveling Mutsu, along with Fusou and Yamashiro, who are a bit further behind.

    Carriers

    Still just two standard carriers - Akagi and Souryuu - despite lots of sorties and over a dozen carrier crafting recipes. Lots of level 50-ish light carriers though - Junyou, Hiyou, Shouhou, Ryuujou. I'm keeping Chiyoda and Chitose as seaplane tenders because they're the only ones I've got.

    Current fleet: https://i.imgur.com/MRoTGBR.jpg
    Old fleet for reference (2+ weeks ago): https://imgur.com/ij9rGhC

    Equipment

    Nothing fancy overall, as I've only just started out and still missing Akashi for one. I got four copies of both the AP shell and T3, night combat gear from Sendai, assorted radars and ASW gear. My plane situation is as follows:

    Fighters: 4 Reppuu, 7 Shiden Kai Ni
    Dive Bombers: 11 Suisei 12A
    Torpedo Bombers: 7 Ryuusei Kai, 8 Ryuusei
    Other: 2 Saiun, 1 Type 2 Recon

    Spent a fortune on crafting those. I'm also down to my last 10 development materials despite doing all the dailies.

    Current equipment: https://i.imgur.com/S3sYzgF.jpg
    Old equpiment for reference (2+ weeks ago): https://imgur.com/WUICUvL

    Resources

    Hovering around 20k fuel, 20k ammo, 35k steel, 20k bauxite. I've been stockpiling buckets like crazy and am currently sitting at 500.

    Progression

    I've managed to make my way to 5-3 and hit a brick wall. Out of seven attempts so far, I haven't been able to make it past the second battle node without at least one of my ships getting hit down to red health. I've tried the standard 2 CA 2 FBB 2 DD composition, as well as a lighter one with torpedo cruisers instead of battleships. All fully modernized. I've also been sparkling the entire fleet and using the full night combat gear (starshell, searchlight, plane). Nothing seems to help. Should I be using the support expeditions here? Or are my ships just too low level?

    Feedback and further suggestions regarding preparation and clearing 5-3 are much appreciated



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    @friggo Excellent progress. Your carrier plane should be sufficient for an easy mode clear, so from now on I would suggest to get some land based bomber. Just do enough for the daily quest every day and hope they appear. We still do not know when the event would begin, but I do not want you to bleed out you bauxite if it starts early.

    For ship, these are some of the ships you can aim for next:

    1, Farm 5-2 for CV drops. Almost all farmable CV drops in this map. It is not as good a map for training as 5-4, but it is easy enough to farm. Clearing 5-3 takes time, so you might be better off to just leave it for after the event. Train any CV you get to kai (in the case of Hiryu/souryuu, to k2)

    For farming 5-2, use 2 CV 1CVL and 3 wildcard ships. I would recommend the FBB and CA you want to train for these wildcards. Have enough fighter power to get AS+ in all slots. Try to maintain your current level of bucket and bauxite while farming.

    2. Level at least one of the kongou sisters and Myoukou to k2. Make use of 5-2 and PVP for that.

    3. If you have no problems with dupes, get chitose/chiyoda dupe and starts training them to k2. They are the best fast CVL in the game.

    4. You will not need more CL for the time. Could always use more good DD, but all the above ships should have the priority. If you are done with everything and still got time and resources, train Ayanami.


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    Ranking in Hashirajima before an event ...who even needs resources eh .

    I get to level Michishio at least but that's about all the preparation I could do before the month turns.






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    Everyone kind of knows this already, but leyte is officially confirmed by the dev.


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    @211303

    Thanks for the great advice once again!

    Quote Originally Posted by 211303
    Get back to us when you reach 5-4 and we can try to formulate some comps.
    It would seem that my initial seven failed attempts at 5-3 were just down to horrible luck, as I've now managed to beat it 3 times out of 5 more tries. Assuming I'll reach 5-4 in a day or two, what would be the suggested ship comp for most efficient leveling/drop farming? It's not like 3-2 where you retreat after the first node, right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by friggo View Post
    @211303

    Thanks for the great advice once again!



    It would seem that my initial seven failed attempts at 5-3 were just down to horrible luck, as I've now managed to beat it 3 times out of 5 more tries. Assuming I'll reach 5-4 in a day or two, what would be the suggested ship comp for most efficient leveling/drop farming? It's not like 3-2 where you retreat after the first node, right?
    For 5-4 you would want to do a full clear. This is what I come up with based on your equipment and ships. Again, noted that the comp has balancing passing rate and resources consumption in mind, and thus is gimped in certain areas. You would not want to follow the comp's principal in actual hard maps.

    Team 1:
    Souryuu kai: suisei 12a/15.5 yellow gun/ryuusei kai/reppu
    random kongou class FBB: red gun/red gun/ap shell/recon plane
    Akagi kai: ryuusei kai/zero mod 62 fighter bomber/reppu/reppu
    Ryuujou kai: shiden k2/ryuusei kai/shiden k2/reppu
    random CA: 20.3/20.3/20.3/recon plane
    random CAV: drum canister x4

    Team 2:
    Souryuu kai: suisei 12a/15.5 yellow gun/ryuusei kai/reppu
    random kongou class FBB: red gun/red gun/ap shell/recon plane
    Akagi kai: ryuusei kai/suisei 12a/reppu/reppu
    Shouhou kai: ryuusei kai/reppu/shiden k2/shiden k2
    random CA: 20.3/20.3/20.3/recon plane
    random CAV: drum canister x4


    Rotate between these two teams whenever you ships get orange morale. For the CV(L), buckets them when they are chuha. For all other ships, only bucket them when they are taiha. You will need to retreat when ships got taiha of cos. If you get a new CV, replace the CVL with the CV after you fully mod her armor.

    Now, noted that while 5-4 is a better training map comparing to 5-2 (low consumption and easy enemy), only shoukaku and zuikaku drops there, while all farmable CV except shoukaku drops in 5-2. You will need to consider which map you would like to go for.


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    Fall event starting in mid November confirmed.


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    @Beetle
    I know right? I've got the night fighter, and I might be able to get enough screws for the night bomber by the event (but that'll be -8000 more bauxite I don't have), but all this CV usage is murdering my bauxite reserves and my resources.
    I'm at 69k 255k 67k 33k for resources. Surprisingly I'm pretty good on buckets though, I've got over 500 of those so I don't need to worry about them (I'd be good for a medium event with 500).
    I never did pass 5-5 either so the only way I'd be able to utilize the plane's special ability is to convert her out of CVB form, and I don't want to do that cause she's one of the strongest CVs I've got.This is actually the first time in several events that I've been legitimately concerned for my resources.
    I've stopped using CVs at all costs except where there's absolutely no risk of bauxite loss.
    I've been PvPing against CVs with BBs and ducks to make up the loss of all air power. Surprisingly it hasn't gone badly though, and I've upgraded a whole bunch of girls including half the Yuugumos, all the other Aganos (except Yahagi, my CL wife), Bismarck (first upgrade only), Shikinami (for Kinu's quest chain), Kinu K2, and gotten Mutsu and Sara(before the plane ban) to lv99. And I've been farming all the bauxite I can with expedition 6 during the day and 11, 24, and 36 at night and 15 on work nights.
    So I've been working my ttk ass off.

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    @friggo Your fleet is pretty good for a newbie, but your resources are in trouble. Stop playing campaign mode and focus on farming resources. You're good on buckets most likely, 500 is a pretty safe number for a small event (I consider it to be decent for medium and even possible on a large event).
    If you have at least 2 CLs over lv65 get together some Tokyo Express fleets and do 37 and 38.
    You can also do 5 and 21 for faster resource gen, or 6 for bauxite. If you have the means 11 and 36 are good overnights for bauxite as well. I'm using them to dig myself out of the hole Sara put me in.
    I'm thinking it's fairly unlikely you'll come across land based planes unless you actively try to get them, and you don't have the bauxite for that so hold off until right before the event and then see what you can do (YMMV on how good this idea is). I wouldn't recommend devoting more than about 3k bauxite trying to get them (but it may cost that much depending on your luck). If I remember right type21's have the longest range of CV fighters so you can try and use them to escort a land base in an emergency, but they aren't ideal. The good news is even a type96 land bomber is a respectable plane with good range, and will reach the boss in all but the largest maps.
    And I think that should be good.



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    @Hoshimaru

    Thanks for the advice!

    I finally cleared 5-3 yesterday, so I'm actually all done with campaign progression for the moment. Now it's just leveling my ships and hoarding resources as you said. I'm limiting the LBAS recipes to just the four dailies, so my bauxite should hold up. My daily expedition spam is 2/5/21 and for overnights I use 16/24/36. Every expedition except 2 is sparkled for 96-100% great success. At this rate, I'll probably end up with at least 30-40k of each resource by the time the event begins, which should (hopefully) be enough for easy mode. This being my first event, I don't really know what to expect, but I think I'm preparing as best as I possibly can.



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    @friggo Relax. Autumn/Winter these days is a good time to start because the events don't fuck you over too badly. Actually, even Spring/Summer easy mode isn't too bad these days. They finally learned what 'balance' means.



 

 

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