Ship Discussion: HMS Duke of York

[Mobius]

Notable change: No more catapult.

[Keyan_TTK]

And here is the Devblog's official announcement:

ST,British battleship Duke of York, tier VII.

Hit points - 60500, plating - 25 mm, belt - 260 - 381 mm.
Main battery - 1x2 356 mm; 2x4 356 mm. Firing range - 18.1 km. HE damage - 6100, AP damage - 10500. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 45 s., maximum dispersion - 242 m. HE initial velocity - 757 m/s. AP initial velocity - 757 m/s. Sigma count - 1.8.
Maximum speed - 28 kt. Turning circle radius - 790 m., rudder shift time - 15 s.
Surface detectability - 14.1 km, air detectability - 12.5 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 12.6 km.
Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 22%

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Defensive AA Fire

All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers.

Uh... no Heal consumable ?!

[Mobius]

Wut. No way this can work, this has got to be a mistake. WG knows better than anyone that the main source of damage received by BBs is AP shells from other BBs, giving it DFAA instead of heal wouldn't alleviate this.

[Lord Harrab]

@Mobius Not to mention all the fires battleships suffer.

[Mobius]

More pictures, courtesy of The Daily Bounce:







According to The Daily Bounce, it might be a free XP ship.
And it still doesn't have a heal.



Really wonder how they will make it work. Maybe a "passive" heal that's constantly active?

[M.A.Mitscher]

This is one of those RN names that get frequently tossed around... And no Repair Party? The Anglophiles are going to have a fit : )

I want to check the NA boards for the first overreactions.

[Keyan_TTK]

Or check Reddit for the torches and pitchforks the strongly worded letters the Brits are sending WG...

That said, she has Defensive Fire! Maybe it shoots down incoming shells?

[Mobius]

According to SEA Group, DoY gets to choose between DFAA and hydro like a cruiser.

Features as a battleship:

• She is no doubt a tier 7 battleship and has a battleship matchmaking weight.
• Identical hull characteristics (survivability, concealment, maneuverability, etc.) as KGV.
• Takes long time to wind up engines.
• Big guns. HE has a fixed penetration of 1/4 of its caliber; short-fuze AP with ricochet angle at 60°/67.5°.

Features as a cruiser:

• Consumables: DCP activates for 5 seconds and reload in 60 seconds. Can use Defensive AA or Hydroacoustic Search, but no Repair Party nor Catapult Planes.
• Can use Defensive AA Fire mod.1 module or Hydroacoustic Search mod.1 module.
• Fire only lasts 30 seconds.

However, she also seems to have a worse RoF (30s reload vs 25s for KGV). Also her AA is apparently ahistorical as she's missing some bofors. Such a bizarre ship.

[M.A.Mitscher]

A Battleship without Repair Party. The horror. What must it be like having a ship with no Repair Party? That'd be almost all Cruisers and Destroyers. They don't even have the BB HP, BB Armor, BB TDS to help them out. WG is also in the process of having more BBs with waterline / below waterline citadels. All while Cruisers still have skyscraper citadels. So I'm just having fun reading all the anguish about "No Repair Party on a ship! How can one play WoWS without Repair Party???"

DOY is of the same class as KGV, so it should also inherit the waterline citadel.

Meanwhile, you got Yorck, Schors, Pensacola, Myoko that are floating aluminum cans without the armor, the HP, the TDS of these BBs. And definitely no Repair Party.

[Mobius]

That's a very flawed comparison. Cruisers aren't expected to tank damage while battleships are. Cruisers also have the the maneuvrability advantage (rudder, turning circles, speed, acceleration, deceleration, ...) and are smaller targets, making torpedobeats/shellbeats easier to perform.

It's fine if you're unhappy with the state of cruisers, but come on, not having repair party on a BB is a whole different thing than not having it on cruisers. It might end up working just fine in terms of balance, but it's not unreasonable to have some concerns about it.

Also, WG isn't in the process of adding more BBs with citadels below the waterline. French BBs (at least until Richelieu, can't say about the others) and Roma will have citadels above the waterline.