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    October ranking rewards and possible Tama K2 hint?

    Since the ranking thread is nowhere to be found yet, I made this thread to discuss the latest equipment from the recent ranking rewards. I see a Tama fairy in there so going by the newer thread of fairy look-a-like I guess Tama is the upcoming CL K2?




    Also, here's the list of October

    Top 1-5
    Arctic Camouflage (+ Arctic Equipment)
    Special Type 2 Amphibious Tank
    Daihatsu Landing Craft (Type 89 Medium Tank & Landing Force)
    Toku Daihatsu Landing Craft

    Top 6-20
    Arctic Camouflage (+ Arctic Equipment)
    Special Type 2 Amphibious Tank
    Toku Daihatsu Landing Craft

    Top 21-100
    Arctic Camouflage (+ Arctic Equipment)
    Daihatsu Landing Craft (Type 89 Medium Tank & Landing Force)
    Toku Daihatsu Landing Craft

    Top 101-500
    Arctic Camouflage (+ Arctic Equipment)
    Toku Daihatsu Landing Craft


    聯合艦隊基幹艦隊(1~5位)
    ●[寒冷地装備] 北方迷彩(+北方装備) new!
    ●[水陸両用戦車] 特二式内火艇
    ●[上陸舟艇] 大発動艇(八九式中戦車&陸戦隊)
    ●[上陸舟艇] 特大発動艇
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    主力艦隊第一群(6~20位)
    ●[寒冷地装備] 北方迷彩(+北方装備) new!
    ●[水陸両用戦車] 特二式内火艇
    ●[上陸舟艇] 特大発動艇
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    主力艦隊第二群(21~100位)
    ●[寒冷地装備] 北方迷彩(+北方装備) new!
    ●[上陸舟艇] 大発動艇(八九式中戦車&陸戦隊)
    ●[上陸舟艇] 特大発動艇
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    主力艦隊第三群(101~500位)
    ●[寒冷地装備] 北方迷彩(+北方装備) new!
    ●[上陸舟艇] 特大発動艇



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    [+] Spoiler

    Rant aside. Yeah, Tama is pretty much confirmed to get her k2. About this Arctic Camouflage, Kiso k2 and Tama gets +4 armor & +9 evasion from it, and the other ships get +2 armor & +2 evasion. The announcement also mentions it will enhance the survivability for the ship equipping it in World 3.




    Whether it is useful? Let's not talk about that, shall we?



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    Scraping the bottom of the barrel, uh?



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    @211303 it's usefulness does depend on if it can go into the extra slot like regular armor plates. If so it's at least a niche there for those two ships (+2/+2 is pretty worthless after all)
    A big issue is how little armor actually matters and how evasion has declining returns anyway.


    At least the tank saves on upgrades if you don't have enough yet and the extra toku daihatsu can be useful replacing the stock base daihatsu. I guess. Those aren't bad but not exactly exciting either.
    Better than garbage niché guns that don't get used or more shiuns



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    @KotoNano Extra armor is actually gonna make your CL perform worse in many situations, because it leads to less overkill protection.

    Let's say we have kiso k2 at full health against flag Ru (130 fp). Without the camo, she has 15.91% taiha rate. With the +4 armor, her taiha rate increases to 22.09%. Armor is simply not something you would want in any light armor ships.

    And let's be honest, I will prefer more shiun over these daihaitsu or tank. Shiun increases artillery spotting rate, and most importantly, it is not optainable by normal means, while tank/daihaitsu can be crafted with screw.


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    @211303

    Toku Daihatsu Landing Craft is very useful, especially to someone like me who 10* their daihatsu to get that extra resources from expeditions.



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    @ofi123 well, Toku is not useless, I will give it that.

    btw, remember not to use your toku with your max daihaitsu if the toku is not upgraded. Star bonus is calculated as the average number of star of all the daihaitsu in that fleet, that means you would actually lower the effect if you put 1 vanilla toku with 3 max daihaitsu.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 211303 View Post
    @KotoNano Extra armor is actually gonna make your CL perform worse in many situations, because it leads to less overkill protection.

    Let's say we have kiso k2 at full health against flag Ru (130 fp). Without the camo, she has 15.91% taiha rate. With the +4 armor, her taiha rate increases to 22.09%. Armor is simply not something you would want in any light armor ships.

    And let's be honest, I will prefer more shiun over these daihaitsu or tank. Shiun increases artillery spotting rate, and most importantly, it is not optainable by normal means, while tank/daihaitsu can be crafted with screw.
    It would be nice if the extra slot can be put on those daihatus or seaplanes... But still I kinda don't understand why having more armor in a CL will leads for a higher taiha rate... Damn Tanaka and his... whatever.



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    @211303 oh it's not for the +4 armor, more for the +9 evasion really. Although in that specific case she'd be worse, in other cases she might live better but lets be honest, Ru flagship as a ballpark isn't the greatest, since there's plenty of stuff that hits way harder anyway that'll proc overkill regardless that nomatter how much armor you stack on a CL they will still get chunked out. And with Kiso her getting chuha kinda makes her useless anyway with the damage reduction. Either way, as I said it's a really niche gimmicky equipment that rarely helps and only really matters on two ships.

    Shiun are ok, but wasn't LoS on the plane increasing artillery spotting rate a myth and using a surface radar mattering way more than what plane anyway?
    But yeah I guess the desire for daihatsu or shiun does depend entirely on your own stock of equipment. If you're swimming in daihatsu it doesn't matter, if you've got plenty of good seaplanes then the shiun won't matter as much either. Both have just as good alternatives that are easy enough to get anyway.


    Most ranking rewards are garbage anyway IIRC. It's all just extra fluff to have that looks neat.



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