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    @211303 Yeah, we are still owed the ASDIC DD. And of course the two DE are on the cover.

    For an event like this, I'd either expect an "intrinsically-special" smaller ship like an Akizuki class or a large ship. We got Suzutzuki last event, I expect a large ship this time. It could be a foreign ship.....a RN battleship or KM battleship could work, but it really would be a nice time to complete the IJN...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DLRevan View Post
    It could be a foreign ship.....a RN battleship or KM battleship could work, but it really would be a nice time to complete the IJN...
    Given the historic context, wouldn't a USN capital ship (BB or otherwise) make a lot more sense than RN or KM?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DLRevan View Post
    The hint is still appropriately vague though. The wording of the tweet implies something more intermediate than the oldest design, but Tenryuu class was also almost immediately followed by Kuma class, construction of the first 5500 ton types started practically the same year as Tenryuu. By that comparison Tenryuu is....not that old either? I like the possibility anyway. Agano class do not really need a special reason to be used if you don't require the specialist services of some of our KN CLs. While nobody would sortie Tenryuu class unless they really really liked them, or have some aversion to leveling other ships as they progress.
    It's not as vague as you're trying to point out, You look at ships that refer to them self as an older model. Like how the Naganami clue started by the "mainstay of mainstays"

    While Kuma would be nice, a she's the only Kuma-class without a K2, despite the fact kuma wasn't exactly that much younger as a historical ship, Tenryuu-class gets portrayed as significantly older CL but honestly, I do think it could be any of those three until more info is available.

    Quote Originally Posted by goesto11 View Post
    Given the historic context, wouldn't a USN capital ship (BB or otherwise) make a lot more sense than RN or KM?
    It's possible for another american ship to be involved but I wouldn't say a capital ship is on the cards, but it's way too soon with absolutely no information on such that we would get one to try bring it into a serious discussion. It could easily be an event with nothing heavier than a cruiser. It honestly wouldn't surprise me being 2DE, 2DD, 1 SS/AV/other as rewards. However the last KM ship added was graf, so it would be nice to have another German brought into the fleet even if it's another light ship.



    Will only return for Yuzuki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goesto11 View Post
    Given the historic context, wouldn't a USN capital ship (BB or otherwise) make a lot more sense than RN or KM?
    Given the historical context of many of our past events we should then have about 4 to 5 American capital ships by now instead of reps from Russia, Italy, etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by KotoNano View Post
    It's not as vague as you're trying to point out, You look at ships that refer to them self as an older model. Like how the Naganami clue started by the "mainstay of mainstays"

    While Kuma would be nice, a she's the only Kuma-class without a K2, despite the fact kuma wasn't exactly that much younger as a historical ship, Tenryuu-class gets portrayed as significantly older CL but honestly, I do think it could be any of those three until more info is available.
    Tweets have been more misleading before. I am only floating the possibility, my personal thought was to go by how the they refer to themselves, meaning tenryuu class, and tenryuu in particular.

    Anyway the latest tweet states that the light cruiser in question boasted world class leading performance at launch. I find this clue dubious, I would not have pegged any of the light cruisers as leading designs of their time. At the very least, nagara class is out. I favor Kuma over Tenryuu here though Kuma already has Kai ni stats.

    Regarding potential new ships, for all past events of this scale, we've gotten, as I said, either small ships of "special" character pedigree, or some kind of large ship at least cruiser size. It would be highly disappointing to get through 6-7 maps for something like Natsushio.

    Of course I am not declaring that a large ship will be the final prize. It is early. But it would not match the the trend, not their marketing efforts. C2 has more recently realized the importance of the latter. Suzutsuki wasn't dropped on us randomly. A larger or more noteworthy ship could get away with less pre-event exposure, like shinano, Tirpitz, Hipper, any CV really, etc.


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    Dunno how reliable this is. But from today's tweets there's been quite of lot of Tatsuta and Murasame.



    Still dreaming for Samidare though, but at this point it seems unlikely.



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    @KotoNano: 2DE, 2DD, 1 SS/AV/other as rewards would be disappointing IMO for a large event (and the issue isn't number of new ships, but what class/what ships). Suzutsuki is fine and all, but overall last event rewards were pretty meh. Yeah HP boost w/DE fodder and all, but spamming DE on top of DD isn't all that satisfying over time. There's a LOT of ships available from other navies to choose from. Apart from Shinano, IJN is tapped out as a source unless you want tons of DE/DE, etc. Just the nature of the game given its longevity. Is what it is.

    USN CA would be like Pola or Zara would need phantom torps given how the game works. Not my first choice for a new ship addition, but could work out well enough I suppose. A CA of some sort would as top ship prize would be OK I guess. Just, well, large event. Have to see how it plays out of course, but I'm expecting some sort of combination of last event and Summer 2017. It's going to be long and complicated with lots of fleet locking and unlocking stuff. Need a suitable reward = capital ship IMO.

    True, haven't had a KM ship in a while, but we do have a few vs. less of USN or other nations as we got KM ships early on. NOT saying no more KM ships of course, but for this event IMO - climax of a 2 part event based upon Leyte, not even a USN DD (e.g. USS Johnston (DD-557)), for a 2 event Leyte inspired battle would be disappointing.

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    @DLRevan: Right, but you could also look at it as took a while for KC to add allied ships so no time like the present to add a couple more (and certainly fitting given context). USN certainly has a number of qualified candidates. We are getting a RN DD so why not a new USN ship as well? Again, NOT against new RN, KM, Italy, etc. in addition to USN, but don't see why not a new USN ships as well.

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    ofi123: Yeah, poor Samidare. :< Doesn't seem like she's getting a K2 now.



    Does seem that Murasume is going to be the DD getting a K2 and Tatsuta (if not Tenryuu) likely as the "old" CL.


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    @goesto11 I am only saying that it doesn't make sense for you to say USN ship are more likely due to the historical context. Especially more recently, where non-what-if events have been heavily based on late war operations where no particular USN capital has stood out.

    I would be very surprised by any battleship of any nation though. Our battleship options are starting to get over-saturated recently without any real need. They have tried to mitigate this by implementing things like "European ship" branching multiple times, which conveniently made battleships feel scarcer. We have options from the bottom cost-efficient range, fast battleship options, new super-heavy options (and a Yamato class KN coming soon). In comparison I think there is space for a CV or cruiser, but at least for CVs I would be surprised by a USN option right now due to the USN equips being served through quest chains and Saratoga being in LSC.


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    @DLRevan: That's fine, but going back to your original comment and my initial reply, I still don't get why you specified "...a RN battleship or KM battleship could work." Why those anymore than a USN BB? That was my question. Why did you feel another RN or KM BB "would work" vs. another USN BB?

    Frankly, now I'm even more confused because you wrote: "I would be very surprised by any battleship of any nation though. Our battleship options are starting to get over-saturated recently without any real need." If that's the case, then why the BB speculation at all before?

    Agree that there's room for more CV, perhaps before more BB. Frankly, I think there's room for more good FAST CVL. Plenty to choose from from all navies.

    As for CA (NOT CAV, but CA), eh, IDK about that. Lot of options and quite a few that seem to sit on my docks unless I just find a way to put them in, or there's some historic bonus/branching. Time for Takao and/or Atago K2 IMO. The other issue with CA is the way the game works with torps & NB. CA that didn't have any torps in RL need high fp/some gimmick (e.g. SPF), etc. There are certainly some who did have torps that so options exist, but not seeing any bigger need for a new CA over a new BB.

    Thing is that if this event turns out as I expect (month long, "7" maps (plays like 8+ with lots of gimmicks, etc.), bunch 'o DD/DE/Aux ain't cutting it as prizes. Save that for Med and/or small (if we still have those). This is the climax of a 2-part theme, and the swansong for "KC 1.0".

    The elephant in the room is Shinano of course. That would make sense for a top prize of course. Still, I'll be honest here. AFAIK, we're supposed to get an RN DD. If Shinano as top prize, I'd like to see a USN DD as well (again, USS Johnston (DD-557) is my pick given theme - not going to be all "what if"). Yes, devs have to parcel out ships, but you can't just give out 4570213 DE from now on. I'm OK with some DE, but there are limits.


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    @goesto11 I just wanted to say I think km or rn bb could work, better than a us or other country bb. No bb is likely, CV would be good to have instead, but something with new equips. That is all. Everything I said.


    I'd rather just talk about the k2s than new ships with no info if it's going to be like this. As mentioned, there is a RN DD and 2 DE. Fine by me I don't need to know anything else.


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    Finally confirmation of Sushi k2. The resource sink before the event XD




 

 

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