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    Guys, which ships should I focus on?


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    @sawhorse Chitose and Chiyoda for sure. They are one of the best fast CVL anyway.


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    All right, less than a month to go. I guess it's time to stop powerleveling and go full stock-kolle. Only dailies/weeklies from this point on

    This will be my second Kancolle event. I'm hoping to clear as many maps on normal as possible, do the rest on easy, and then farm like a madman for any missing ships.

    My fleet of historical ships is as ready as it's going to be, I think. Musashi will keep PVP-ing until the event, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with where my ships are at. Current priority is getting my resources above softcap. Luckily I have well over 1000 buckets, so at least I'm not too worried about that

    I'll still keep doing radar crafting for the dailies though, since I'd like to get at least one T33 radar before the event, just in case. Also going to build a total of 3 seaplane fighters and then use remaining screws to get my duck guns and 20.3cm(3) guns to 4 stars. I should have barely enough screws for that, assuming Akashi won't troll me on those final SPF improvements.

    I'm probably not panicking as much as for Fall 2017, but I haven't experienced a "large" event before, so I'm a bit nervous nevertheless. I'm just hoping that Tanaka won't do anything too insane


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    Thanks a lot for the help. This really taught me a lot. I think you nailed it all spot on. Other than Quad Oxygen torpedoes which I some how have like 20 of, everything else sounds accurate to what I need.

    Sorry if I wasted your time with poor formatting. I'm not used to asking for help as I usually try to figure out everything for myself.



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    @sawhorse: Definitely agree on Chitose & Chiyoda, but I'd add Noshiro and even Yahagi (say 50+) to the level grind list as well. Also, I'd try to have at least 2x DD for each historic fleet leveled as well (if you have 2 or more). Thus, at least get Asashimo & Yamagumo to Kai.

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    @friggo: Nice job.

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    @ardiel: You're welcome and no worries on the format. Just keep it in mind for the future. FYI/FWIW, some additional thoughts you may find helpful

    1) Quest F33 gives a Special Type 2 Amphibious Tank ("ka-mi tank"). Requires C9 and B46. Try to do that if not too difficult for you. If you lack daihatsu, there are a number of quests which reward one. Check KC Wikia/Wiki for those quests. "Tankhatsu" and ka-mi tanks are both improvement targets, but unlike a lot of equipment, the bonuses are linear (no break points). So you can add those to the improvement list when you get them. Do not have to max out right away. Many stop at +5 or +6 for a while. If you can't get to that, again, do what you can with all the other stuff. FYI - Reason to get at least one of each is because there is often a synergy damange bonus for ships equipped with tankhatsu + ka-mi tank.

    2) Reminder - go through all the event mechanics: Combined fleet requirements, Support Expeditions types & comps (shelling changed last event and there's now aerial ASW among other things), etc.

    3) Strongly recommend you do NOT jump into the event right away. Wait at least 24 hours if not even 48 or so. Let front-runners figure out branching, ideal fleet comps/equipment, special gimmicks, etc. You'll be doing mostly Easy so no fleet locking, but this really helps if/when you do higher difficulties because you do not want to lock a ship on the wrong map if possible. Even on Easy, it will make things much more efficient (important for resources) including potential farming targets on top of clearing maps.

    4) If you don't know already, the forum will have threads for each event map. There will be a walkthrough/guide as well (very helpful). Feel free to ask questions and such. Lot of good advice here.


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    Some improvement tweaking before next event. Low on screws, but I do have a few medals to help out with that. Below are a few improvement items I'm considering. Would appreciate a priority ranking along with recommendations for either/or type choices as applicable. I do have other items (e.g. probably need to throw some stars on a remaining 16"/50 Mk7 & a Proto 41cm triple), but these are the one's I'm debating. Of course, given limited improvemats, won't be able to do all of these before event, but will do what I can. In no particular order:

    1) Either one 8cm HA or 8cm HA+MG to +9: Obviously the latter is better, but I think the 8cm HA offers better value and is "good enough" if not completely equal to 8cm HA+MG. Right now, I'm planning on 8cm HA, but if it's truly worth the extra expense, I can work on 8cm HA+MG instead. I definitely want to do one of these - just not 100% sure which one I should do.

    2) Seaplane fighters: Right now I have 2x Type 2 Skilled, Kyuufou Kai, Type 2 and 2x Ro.44. Ro.44 kind of suck and it's not worth upgrading to Ro.44bis. Because I've been cutting it quite close with what I have a couple times, thinking I probably should do something here. [EDIT] Thought about this some more, and I think the best course of action for me right now is to work on getting my remaining Type 2 SPF to +5 (perhaps ultimately to +10) rather than build another Type 2 SPF. Type 2 SPF skilled & Kyoufuu Kai are more expensive (incl. fodder, esp. Kyoufuu Kai).

    3) Zuiun (634 Air Group/Skilled) (Quest F58). Would like to get this done, but it just doesn't seem to be a high priority item. :/

    4) Start working on remaining F4F-4 to F6F-5 (max). Would help for sure, but a LOT of improvemats needed along with fodder. Working on stockpiling fodder (i.e. Shiden K2) w/daily crafting, but that's going sloooow and see about a LOT of improvemats. No way I can get this done before the event. Maybe get to F6F-3 with a bit of improvement, but that's it. That being said, if a high/higher priority item, might as well start working on it sooner than later.

    Any recommendations are appreciated.

    Thanks.


    Last edited by goesto11; 01-23-2018 at 06:59 PM. Reason: updated/revised
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    @goesto11 tbh, none of these are of high priorities. If I am to choose from one of these, I will probably get an extra SPF, making the total no. of 6.


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    Looks like it's my turn to seek for advice.... (yes I am ashamed that I still need this given that this will be my 10th event, but my confidence in fleet planning has never been high :( )

    Current Ships:



    ....and equipment:


    As usual for my 10th event I'm targeting mostly hard but leaving the doors open for medium for the hardest maps (like Fall 17 E4, Summer 17 E7, Fall 16 E4 etc.), and my priorities will be to get every new ships needed to be farmed to continue keeping my KanDex collection complete. The fleet is as good as ever and the only training left is to get my new major ships to even higher levels via PvP(*) (preferably Lv 80+ for YamaSushi and 85+ for Taihou/Unryuu/Suzu-duck/Murasame/Naganami, although I don't think I will made it before the event yet I can settle for a little lower). I'm still debating on whether I should turn Sara into CVB form now that chances of getting night fighting planes before the event are slim (see below) and I certainly wanted to try out Black Sara for some time already - any reasons NOT to do this?

    The major problem is with my resources. After finally closing my LSC furnace once and for all over two weeks ago my resources is still only at 71k/46k/218k/20k (perhaps due to YamaSushi training, something inevitable this time). I have been using expeditions 21/37/38 around the clock (with 24/40 also used during sleep) but the growth rate isn't very fast and I probably will have to start the event with barely over 100k for fuel and ammo (which is on par with my past LOL). But the most alarming thing is bauxite still below the regeneration line (which I only keep up with natural regen. and quests until I am comfortable with fuel and ammo later on) and I can only hope this event isn't bauxite heavy......
    Any advices as to how I should run my expeditions are welcome.

    The constant resources problems for the past year have stunt my plans to improve equipment and I'm now sitting on 286 screws but not enough resources to make improvement fodders (or just improve things). While the resources problem is now slated to be gone after this event (mainly due to all old ships hunted down/built), there are only a handful of improvement that can be made before mid-February.

    Which things should I prioritize to improve this time around, assuming that I can get my resources to acceptable levels?
    - Get Iwamoto to max
    - Get one of the Zero M52 601 to max and convert to Reppu 601 max
    - Convert a Type 0 recon./Ro-43 into my 5th seaplane fighter (I used to thought 4 was enough but then everyone seems to panic on this judging from looking at various forums lately)
    - Get the F6F-3N and TBM-3D (all screws and Shiden K2 needed are here but my bauxite is lacking and I still need some Zero M52)
    - Improve my battleship main guns to 2-4 stars (maybe 46cm Triple/16 inch Triple even though costs will be high? Or maybe the Proto-41?)
    - Improve my ASW gear (maybe even get a second Type 4 sonar?)
    - Improve my new Ducky gun pair from Suzu-ducky
    - Improve my radars or just build some Type 32/33 (very unlikely due to my nonexistent bauxite)
    - Improve my anti-instillation gear (slap a few more stars to the Ka-Mi tank and Tank Daihatsu?)
    Are there any other obvious equipment problems that I need to fix?

    One last thing: I still want to finish this months' 5-5 (2 kills left out of 5) and 6-5 (5 kills left out of 6). Is it still a good idea given my resources?

    (*) I don't think Lv 60 historical DDs will be much of a hindrance should they need to join the action (as proved by Asa/Yamagumo last time) so I've no plans to specifically train for them right now.


    Last edited by Cosmic Penguin; 01-22-2018 at 04:54 PM.
    KanDex completed and graduated from LSC on January 6, 2018 with Taihou found. :)

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    @211303: Thanks for the reply. Couple things to note.

    (1) I realize these are more "end game" items, but that's kind of where I'm at with improvement right now (at least I think so). I'll have the Shiden M21 done soon. Got one Type 12.7cm Model D to +4 because useful for a couple historic DD and got 12x 10cm HA+FD improved to various degrees already. No Reppuu Kai and such so could use another +11 or +12 AA fighter for sure, but UGH is that second F6F-5 gonna be expensive. Apart from the list above, I've also got a 3rd 16"/50 and a 3rd Proto 41cm Triple I could start to improve as well (say to +4, perhaps ultimately +7 or +9, but NO WAY I'm doing a 3rd 16"/50 to GFCS. Far too expensive).

    (2) I already have 6x SPF (of which two are Ro.44). Issue is that I've cut it close with what I have before - too close. [EDIT] Upon further consideration, I think probably the best course of action for me right now is to improve my one remaining Type 2 SPF to +5 (perhaps ultimately over time to +10, but won't convert to Kyoufuu Kai) vs. building another Type 2 SPF or improving the most costly Type 2 SPF skilled & Kyoufuu Kai. As improvemats are an issue, there's still the issue of priority for this vs. the other items.

    Since I do have 6x SPF, how would your order priority for the aforementioned improvement options (and feel free to include improving 3rd 16"/50 in the analysis)? Also, I would appreciate your thoughts on 8cm HA vs. 8cm HA+MG improvement question. I suppose there is the option to just not improve some stuff (since I'm almost down to trading medals for screws again), but I do think there are some items which could help me as well. If this event turns out as I expect, kind of need to pull out the stops. :/

    Thanks

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    @Cosmic Penguin: Eh, no worries about asking for advice. That's what the forum is for IMO. *shrugs* Anyway...

    Honestly, while you do have some equipment upgrading to do, 71k/46k/218k/20k ain't gonna cut for a large event - especially if there's a lot of farming to do unless you are very lucky. That's your biggest issue IMO, but you already know that. You may get lucky with the bauxite cost given the STF talk, but then again, that may be one CTF map where you burn 800 or even 1k baxuite (with LBAS) per sortie. >_<

    As for 5-5 and 6-5 hard to say given resource issues. Depends on how fast you can stockpile and how easy you can finish off 5-5 or plow through 6-5. If going to be expensive, then prudence with resources may be the better call here.

    Ships look fine, though IMO I'd want more than level 50 for historic ships, especially for Hard. Even on Med for final EO maps, 50 may be pushing things if this event turns out as I expect. I'd throw some of the lower level historic DD in PVP if I were you. Try to have 2-3 (if applicable) good DD per historic fleet.

    One thing you lack is Fast AV (i.e. Chitose A/Chiyoda A). May/may not be an issue. You might also want to bump one of your AO (pick one as I'm still not sure which of the two is truly superior to the other). Could also bump Akatsu Maru if you want.

    Equipment: Overall, yeah, needs some work. Listed some things in spoiler below - NOT in order. Priority is a bit tough since a lot of that stuff is important IMO. Also, while you have a hoard of screws, fodder is an issue. What I would do is fill some gaps with each category as fodder dictates. For example, work on Iwamoto max, get some of the large/med/guns improved, one more SPF for sure, etc. Once you hit a fodder limitation, work on some items you for which still have enough fodder.

    [+] Spoiler

    - Iwamoto to max, then 601 max.
    - A 5th if not 6th SPF. Seriously. IMO you need at least 6x SPF for Hard, and you can see above even with that I'm still not sure I have everything I need with 6 I have.
    - Large Guns: First, 16"/50 Mk.7 - two if not all 3 to +4, then maybe 2x Proto 41cm triple to +4 (3rd 16"/50 takes priority over 3rd Proto 41cm). Also (since different fodder), get both Proto 35.6cm triple to +7 (+9 later - you'll want all of these at +9). In fact, IMO need more than the 2x Proto 35.6cm triple. At least 4, perhaps even 6. Can build another pair, or improve the 38cm Kai you have. I prefer 35.6cm triple, but some like 38cm Kai and those you do have right now. OTOH, different fodder so your choice. 381mm/50 Kai are debatable, but certainly 2nd tier regardless.
    - Medium Guns: Later, work on 20.3cm (no.3) to +9. For now get 2 if not 4 20.3cm (no.2) to +7 if not +9.
    - Small Guns: Work on 1 pair (perhaps a 2nd post event) of 10cm Ha+FD to +9 or max. Can throw on +1 star for right now on the 2 unimproved guns if you want.
    - Get one 90mm HA to +9.
    - Torps: No fodder for your 3x Quint, so get at least 3 (or even say 5) Quad Oxy to +6 as part of daily quest so "free" as a stop gap. (seriously - if you need to run 3 (or more) NB TCI ships, you'll want improved torps for all). Work on more quint Oxy later. Also get that Sextuple Oxy later.
    - ASW: Skip improvement for now.
    - RADAR: Definitely want better stuff than you have (at least Type 33 over Type 22), but far too expensive right now to try crafting any. I would add getting one ,if not two ultimately, Type 13 Kai to +9 at some point. For event, work on one to +4.
    - Tank/Tankhatsu: At the least, get one "tankhatsu" and one Ka-mi tank to +6 at least. Frankly, for Hard, having two of each is a good idea. If you have time/fodder/screws, getting a 2nd "tankhatsu" to +6 with the other at max (so can quickly upgrade to ka-mai tank) isn't a bad idea, but not high priority. You might get by with Toku + 11th reg, but not 100% if that gets same synergy with ka-mi tank (and you still would need a 2nd Ka-mi tank anyway).


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    What happens if I don't have SPF? I don't think I will have the screws to make even one of them. I have 15 screws so maybe if I start farming screws like crazy and don't miss any...



 

 

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