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    2017 December ranking reward



    2017 December's ranking reward will be released in the evening of Jan 27. Among the rewards will be new equipment(s) that will be officially implemented in Feb.

    T1-5
    12cm 30-tube rocket launcher k2 x1
    46cm kai x1
    FM-2 x1
    Saiun (The 4th Reconnaissance Squadron) x1

    T6-20
    12cm 30-tube rocket launcher k2 x1
    46cm kai x1
    FM-2 x1

    T21-100
    12cm 30-tube rocket launcher k2 x1
    Proto 41cm x1
    FM-2 x1

    T101-500
    12cm 30-tube rocket launcher k2 x1
    FM-2 x1

    Stat of the new equipments

    12cm 30-tube rocket launcher k2
    8AA, 1 armor, 3 evasion, 1 accuracy

    46cm kai
    27fp, 6aa, 2 armor, 2 accuracy

    Saiun (The 4th Reconnaissance Squadron)
    2aa, 10LOS, 2 accuracy

    FM-2
    2fp, 6aa, 1 ASW, 2 evasion, 2 bombing, range 4
    (It is a DB btw)

    A couple of notes from the announcement and weapon description:
    1. Ise kai and Hyuuga kai equipped with 12cm 30-tube rocket launcher and other AA equipment will have bonus AA ability. (New AACI)

    2. Yamato class gain bonus with 46cm kai.

    3. (From 46cm kai's flavoring text) A yamato class with both 46cm kai and 15.5cm kai secondary gun will gain bonus.

    4. Musashi k2 will come with a different gun.

    (We do not have the exact data for none of the above bonuses. I will update when they are available.)


    Last edited by 211303; 01-29-2018 at 07:16 PM.
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    I hope we get ISe-class K2 next.

    Now, about the Wildcat FM2, if it indicate a new USN ship, time to lower your expectations because most of ships who equiped them are CVE.



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    @Sheba it could be. This is the new fairy on FM-2.


    If we are talking about CVE in Leyte, White Plain and Gambier Bay come to mind. We will see in 2 weeks time.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Atm, two types of new AACI are discovered on Ise class.

    API=25: new rocket+AA radar+t3 shell


    API=28: new rocket+AA radar


    The exact amount of bonus should come in a couple of hours.


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    So.....are we going to see AA BB(V?) next with Ise class kai? lol

    Though it makes no sense with rocket AACI with how historically ww2 AA rockets are pretty inefficient.



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    @ofi123 Many ships got their own AACI but in reality the two we really use are Akizuki and Maya so far, because:

    1. Their AACI setup does not seriously affect their damage ability
    2. The bonus is actually high

    Without the actual amount of bonus yet, so this is all I can say, but don't be too disappointed if it turns out to be another meme AACI.


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    @211303

    Even if the AACI just 1 tier weaker, if Ise class kai ni have 75%+ of the plane capacity in 1 slot it may be viable to use them over the other AACI ships with that seaplane fighter slot. Still just a random thought though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ofi123 View Post
    @211303

    Even if the AACI just 1 tier weaker, if Ise class kai ni have 75%+ of the plane capacity in 1 slot it may be viable to use them over the other AACI ships with that seaplane fighter slot. Still just a random thought though.
    It's not even the bonus of the AACI. It is the fact that they are BB, and the amount of equipment required to trigger those AACI.

    Let's say we put the rocket in the reinforcement slot, we got 4 more slots to work with.

    In terms of the t3+radar+rocket AACI, you only got two empty slots left, so no day artillery spotting nor ap shell. Such a bb got 0 offensive capability.

    Now if we use the AACI comp without t3 shell, you got one more slot for obs, but no slot for ap shell. A BB without ap shell is rather meh in any conditions. The t3 shell wouldn't help even against installations, unless we are talking about single fleet here, as day fire cap exists.

    BB are limited in no. both by fleet and routing requirement, and they are an important source of damage. Giving up their offensive ability for an AACI is just way worse than giving up the offensive ability of a dd or a ca. The AACI needs to be something crazy (like +30) to justify such a sacrifice.


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    I get the offensive capability part, but that's pretty much the same for any AACI ships. Yes BBs are limited due to routing, but in cases where there is a choice a BBV AACI would be the best. Otherwise, even in the current situation when there's no limit people will take Maya/ducks for AACI when there's a need for AACI.

    My point is when there's a choice, an AACI BBV would be a good option.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 211303 View Post
    If we are talking about CVE in Leyte, White Plain and Gambier Bay come to mind.
    I'm hoping for USS St. Lo.


    comes with a free Japanese plane too


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    Quote Originally Posted by ofi123 View Post
    @211303

    I get the offensive capability part, but that's pretty much the same for any AACI ships. Yes BBs are limited due to routing, but in cases where there is a choice a BBV AACI would be the best. Otherwise, even in the current situation when there's no limit people will take Maya/ducks for AACI when there's a need for AACI.

    My point is when there's a choice, an AACI BBV would be a good option.
    Exactly my point. People will take Maya or duck regardless of all these meme AACI, because using them gives up less damage.

    In the case of Maya, she literally gives up nothing when luckmodded with her AACI+TCI setup, and when not luckmodded, only loses artillery spotting and some FP. None of them are really that important when you consider that she rarely has the chance to attack at day in escort fleet.

    Duckie gives up more, as it is pretty much a TCI traded for a weak DA. Still no where near the effect of losing artillery spotting and ap shell in two rounds of main fleet shelling phases in every node.


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