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    I get AS+ with this setup plus all 3 LBAS with 3 bombers + fighter on the boss node. Both support were used.
    Well I used AO for these reasons:
    1) I had over 20 replenishment and needed to clear some space.
    2) Wanted to keep BB and 2 opening torp to reduce pre-boss damage. Node support helped greatly especially for node H.
    3) To maximize shelling power at boss node, otherwise I may have to give up 1 slot in 1st fleet for a CL/DD.
    Side note: I saw someone using 4 CL+DD instead of 5 but have a AV in the 1st fleet as well and went to Z3.


    My STF chipping fleet with only 1 retreat that managed to get 1 S rank. All 3 LBAS with 3 bombers + 1 fighter to the boss node. No support needed. So it's considerably "cheap".
    Since I believed I screwed up my Russian DDs tags to take a Russian CTF screenshot on the boss node, I consider managing to make this work a miracle.


    My debuff fleets, just some minor differences
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    STF: Additional usage of boss support and switching Yura from OASW to night DA+night scout


    CTF: Both support are used. I think that Maya can be swapped for other ships that can help with pre-boss nodes since AACI didn't have much value if not going through nodes B and Z3.



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    @ofi123: Cool. Thanks! I'm getting there with my comp, but I don't have the flexibility to copy your comp since I cleared Part 2 with STF (and no Euro clones to help out). Bit limited on what's available for STF use.

    As for AO & resupply drums. LOL, I have 60 of those left. Still scarred a bit by Spring 2016 (pretty sure that's right) when ran out on multiple failed hard clear attempts (hate that event). So I've been just hoarding those things. Still, not sure if I can work in an AO given who''s locked to what tag, etc. As for AV, eh, not sure if I want that or not. Perhaps I'm missing something with that though.

    Regardless fleet & comps do help. Does give me some ideas. I do have Yura left so that's a possibility (Prinz Eugen locked to Blue tag though). Could use her with Ko-hyoteki + 2x ASW. In that case maybe put in Kiso K2 as a 2nd CLT (chipping only). Zuihou K2B in escort is another option, but hard to judge whether Zuihou K2B will be better for NB or Kiso K2 w/ DA.

    Question: How bad is Node Z3. That's another thing. Trying to decide whether I should have Suzutsuki in STF chipping escort fleet. If I put Zuihou K2B in escort, then decision is made. If not, still not sure. Not thrilled about going into Z3 with STF and no AACI, but maybe it's not that bad.


    Thanks to Arkayda for the signature.


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    E5 Hard part 1 and part 2 cleared (2nd time)!

    Notable drops: Nothing yet

    Comments: Part 1 is relatively straightforward, with the sub node being a pain at times. I used 4 OASWs for chipping phase, before reducing to 3 for LD (Abukuma converted to TCI).

    Part 2 is where the hell begins. After having to go through sinking the LD boss a 2nd time, the final comp I used was more or less stable and consistent, only stalled by the failure of TCI activation for a few runs. After trying out a lot of different comps, the sub tank comp is still the best. For escort, I opted for 4 anti-installation and 2 TCIs as getting rid of the installations at night is paramount for the TCIs to aim the boss. All in all these are the factors that need to be aligned for complete victory at LD:

    1) Minimal to no damage at sub hime node T (around 50% chance) <---- This is real cancer
    2) Minimal to no damage en-route to boss (around 80% chance)
    3) Elimination of PT imps before daytime shelling begins (around 40-50% chance, otherwise one or two attacks to finish off any remaining PT imps)
    4) Elimination of at least Airfield Hime or Singapore Hime (around 60% chance)
    5) Chipping of French Hime to at least yellow or orange (around 60% chance)
    6) Good Friend Fleet (Gotland with Roma and Italia, around 60 - 70% chance)
    7) Elimination of remaining installations before TCI (around 30 - 50% chance)
    8) TCI activation (around 40-50% chance)

    The most crucial factors I think are 7 and 8, with 7 always screwing up (anti-installation attacking boss, TCI attacking installation). My last few runs went well, but 7 and 8 went haywire, leaving the boss alive at red hp.

    Around 70k fuel and ammo used for phase 2. It could have been worse!

    E5 Hard 2nd phase LD replay

    Phase 1


    Abukuma equipped with 1 sonar and 1 depth charge for chipping, TCI for LD


    All bases to boss node J




    Phase 2


    2 repair personnel on the sub tank for 100% survival (1 used up at boss, so only 1 left as shown). 1 is still possible, but things may go wrong at times


    1 LBAS with Toukais to sub node T during chipping, but is actually optional and I advise sending 3 bases of 1 fighter/interceptor 3 bombers to boss node W for better success during chipping and LD. 2 spitfires may shoot down all of French Hime's planes, causing her to ignore the sub and attack other targets, so it's safer to bring 1 spitfire.


    Last edited by Ken G; 09-30-2018 at 06:00 PM.

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    So I know I'm a little late to the party with this, but I think the shortcut requirements are off for Hard. (yes, Hard, I double-checked after this).

    I unlocked the boss node with S-ranks of H and I, but both runs I failed to get a perfect defense against the air raid. Went on to STF, figuring I'd come back.

    First STF run I S-ranked T (and S) and got a perfect LBAS defense, but AACI didn't trigger at K and I got an A rank. Still AS tho.

    Second STF run I didn't get the perfect LBAS defense again, but got AS and S-ranked K. And the route opened up.

    So, combined with what @NanashiYoukai saw, shortcut may just be 2 AS @ K, S-rank T, and get one perfect LBAS defense with an STF.


    Last edited by Etrigan; 09-30-2018 at 10:21 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Thank the Gods!!!!! My girls finally nailed the last Dance for Phase 3 and I have Nelson, along with two extra Bisco s for my troubles and the mountain of resources that went into this OP. I couldn't get the short cut to work so I had to CTF the entire fight , still looking at what is left of my bauxite stash and trying not to cry lol.



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    Well, part 3 chipping was almost calming - 9 runs with STF, no retreats, would have done it in 8 but the chrome memory hole cost me one run.

    Now, back to slamming face-first into torpedoes at T with no LBAS support. yaaaaaay.



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    PRAISE CHEETOS!

    My thanks to @211303 for his critique/points, and @goesto11 especially for his replay's raw data...was able to make some tweaks... It isn't beautiful, it isn't perfect..but dammit, they did it (E2).
    AMUSEMENT is Yukikaze was the only 'arrived in damaged' and was the one that had started without sparkle (she lost it in a previous aborted run, and wasn't about to waste irako-set on just one).
    Major tweak (imo) was adding a second fighter to first lbas so that it had AP, which carried through the rest... previously had only AP on the last lbas...feels like they were less useless that way.

    And I swear the boss is programed to seek out Riche first to kick her ass.




    Well now that i'm done with the eve...wait...wat? E2 wasn't the end? /cries
    Anyways, onwards to thinking about E3~~



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    So, was there ever a guide or tips for setting up node support for ASW? I'm hoping that can push me past T.

    CVLs just loaded with high ASW planes? Sonars? Sonars on DDs? Radars? Normal oASW loading? Thanks for any help.



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    @Etrigan

    Pulled this off the discord:

    with caveat the planes involved must have an ASW stat.

    The suggestion was 2 CV, 2 CVL and 2 DD, using planes with best ASW stats, while DD were 'just there to make it an expedition' (i.e. their equip wasn't important)


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    @Ferreae That's exactly what I needed, thank you!

    Huh - I thought Taiyou was a natural for ASW support, but based on that her small slot size works against her.



 

 

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