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    This is crap. I spent another hour sparkling my fleet and I'm still struggling unlocking the paths for phase 3. Like what the hell is even the point of optimizing fleets? I get retreated all the damn time trying to get to node N. And this is with support expedition!


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    @Ghoulvarine Use a full sub fleet or damecon your surface fleet. The air raid is very unlikely to trigger a damecon, as pretty much all the plane would be shot down after 4 waves of LBAS, your own aerial combat phase and AACI.


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    Node I and M of course are the issue even with vanguard formation. I opted for damecon option, which I really dislike using but I have to anyway and was the thing that enabled me to get past it.


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    E2 Hard cleared!

    Notable drops: Kamoi

    Phase 1 is relatively straightforward. Recommend to use Jintsuu here since CA Hime can be tanky on LD. Both LBAS bases loaded with full LBAS bombers and sent to boss node K for maximum dmg.

    Used 4 SSVs and 2 SS for unlocking the 2nd starting point (using 8 SPFs), as well as sent both LBAS bases loaded with full fighters/interceptors. For node N, may be required to use a Taitei/Catalina if you are planning to use spitfires or hiens.

    Unlocking of shortcuts is mainly for post-clear farming. To reach nodes V and W, CTF with 4 CVLs is required (3 CVLs and lesser will route you to L instead).

    Unlocking of shortcut M->P is basically a repeat of unlocking the 2nd starting point, but since air supremacy is required on all the air defence nodes (except N), it is recommended to either use 2 LBAS bases of fighters, or use CTF with fighter mules, or both (especially for R, which can hit over 1000 AP required for AS+).

    Phase 2 feels like doing monthly 5-5, where node M with the 2 BB Himes is similar to the Re-Elite node in 5-5, where most of your retreats will take place. Even with support shelling and 1 base of LBAS bombers, retreat rate is fairly high there, so you might as well not use LBAS and support expedition to conserve resources if doing post-clear farming. Just hope the BB Himes miss their hits often. Use Nelson Touch or Nagato's special attack on node M.

    Phase 2 boss is very easy, even on LD, so once you pass node M, it's more or less a clean S-rank at boss node P.


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    LBAS 1 sent to boss node P, LBAS 2 sent to node M (both sent to boss node P during LD)



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    Asking for a friend's comp, so I don't have much info on his fleet other than hes got a good spread of ships, but no SPFs at all.

    How bad is going the short route with no CVL and no SPF for Easy mode? The CVL route is damned long. Doing the shortcuts is would make it shorter, but unlocking those shortcuts is also damned long.

    I cleared this on Hard already using the short route, so I don't really know what its like.


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    So do you need 12 subs? 6 here for unlocking node N, and then 6 in E3 for some reason? (I haven't looked yet).



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    @DLRevan well, if it is easy mode, you might as well go with 4BB2CVL for north route for LD. A vanilla Re isn't that much of a threat. Route is much longer so don't expect a high passing rate.

    You could probably still use south route for chipping as long as you get one SPF from the NY quest. As all preboss surface node have no CV, you will still get AS+ and achieve similar passing rate as the normal comp.

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    @firehawk12 Well, for both unlock in E2 and E3 you can do it normally as well. For sub fleet, since you need to get AS(+), at least 3-4 of the sub has to be SSV and filled with SPF.


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    Thanks, made it to phase 2 finally.

    I'm just a bit confused about set up. What FP should I be aiming for? Do I need to mule the two CAVs?
    I'm also curious about how best to balance the 7 radars, because in second fleet you'll have 4 (Jintsu, CA, 2DDs) so that means you need 3 in the first fleet... presumably you want to have the 2BB do DA during dat battle but also use AP shells, so that means putting a radar on a CAV as well?

    Oh yeah, for Nelson Touch to activate you need to use formation 2 right? So do you use that even on the boss?


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    Is there any estimates for air power needed for the boss node after taking into account LBAS? (Either 2x4 bombers, 2x3 fighters, or bomber LBAS and fighter LBAS)



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    @firehawk12 @ofi123

    For pre LD, 8 SPF and two waves of AP LBAS (T2 recon/64 squadron/54 squadron) will give you AS most of the time.

    For LD, even 9 SPF is quite iffy, so you might as well just prepare to fight under AP. The boss is weak so that shouldn't be a problem.

    As for Nelson's touch, it can only trigger in formation 2, and once only per sortie. Since then, it is best to use it in the BB hime node, which is also the hardest part of this map.

    Recon is still important for your ships as they will get AS+ in all other nodes. For radar slot, perhaps go with 5 on the DD and CA in escort, and 2 in main fleet CA


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