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    Someone on Reddit posted this


    Could E3 Hard be subcheeseable?




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    @Danielosama It is possible, but the passing rate will not be good. You need to pass node J and node V, both filled with multiple ASW ship. A rank rate would be bad as well, since it's pretty much doomed if you get the DE comp.


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    @211303 Oh well, I expected that. Back to STF.




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    For E-3H LD, do I still need to retain some OASW ships to deal with the sub nodes or just go all in and deck everybody in the escort fleet for NB?The sub nodes become aimbots the moment I reach LD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentcap View Post
    For E-3H LD, do I still need to retain some OASW ships to deal with the sub nodes or just go all in and deck everybody in the escort fleet for NB?The sub nodes become aimbots the moment I reach LD.
    Even sparkled, the sub nodes still wrecked me on last dance (i kept getting 4 sub nodes), so i went with 2 asw ships. You don't "need" either asw to pass or full nb setup on your escort to beat last dance, so it just boils down to what you feel more comfortable with: Increased passing rate at the cost of failing to do the last 54 points of damage because EVERY FRIGGING SHIP IN YOUR ESCORT DECIDED TO DO SCRATCH DAMAGE *pant pant*... or more chances to beat the boss during the night at the cost of more retreats en route.

    You also have to take in account how many of your escort ships are getting damaged on the submarine nodes. At some point i was passing through consistently, but with 4 chuuha ships, which of course meant i didn't have enough punch left to defeat the boss anyways. I opted for sacrificing node C to RNGesus, and focusing all my toukai on node ZZ, so as to at least have a chance to skip that node consistently. It worked in the end, and the passing rate on C was not that bad to be honest, about the same as just sending 1 toukai and having no asw ships.


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    @Kahlev

    How many undamaged ships in the escort fleet do I need at least before entering the boss node? Got to the boss twice in a row where the first has my escort fleet only having the 3rd and 4th ships (both destroyers) at chuuhua while the second one has the escort fleet flagship at taiha (which is still safe from sinking) and another ship that's at yellow health.

    I'm assuming these undamaged ships are geared for boss killing/NB instead of OASW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentcap View Post
    @Kahlev

    How many undamaged ships in the escort fleet do I need at least before entering the boss node? Got to the boss twice in a row where the first has my escort fleet only having the 3rd and 4th ships (both destroyers) at chuuhua while the second one has the escort fleet flagship at taiha (which is still safe from sinking) and another ship that's at yellow health.

    I'm assuming these undamaged ships are geared for boss killing/NB instead of OASW.
    I would say ideally your 4 NB ships would be chuuha at worst. If you end with something like Shigure or Isokaze on taiha, you are easily losing 500 points of potential damage on the boss. I would not try with more that 2asw ships to be honest.



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    How big is the jump in difficulty from easy to medium? I'm trying to see if it's worth it for the extra type c minisub...



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    @Mobius: Thanks for the info. Plan is to use one LBAS group of Toukai once to Node C and once to Node ZZ so probably won't go with OASW ship for clear. NOT sure what I'll do with post clear farming. Maybe keep it that way or maybe just have 2-3 OASW ships and send all LBAS boss. Got Part 1 done so now to unlock and then clear. Part 1 took be a bit longer than I thought. There's quite a bit to do for unlocking, but hopefully won't be too arduous. Want to clear ASAP so I can start dealing with farming for new ships.

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    @211303 Thanks. Guess it doesn't matter then which CV I use for unlocking E-3 (or E-2 it seems). As for unlocking the E-2 short cuts, see what you mean, but it is one less node to deal and potential damage. OTOH, unlocking that seems quite involved = time/resources. Just hope RNG is kind to me with farming regardless. I like both of the new drop only ships so want to get them.

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    @firehawk12: Not sure the difference in difficulty overall though from comments, it seems that E-3 isn't all that particularly difficult as final E-O maps go. To me, Medium to me is worth it. Can easily see a situation where I'd use both of the better Ko-hyoteki in a fleet. However, you may want to factor in post-clear farming as well.


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    Is there any point in securing AS on the boss node? After I ditched the LBAS I'm reserving for loli sub hime and stuffed it with 4 LBAS bombers and sent it to boss, I somehow obtained AS on the boss node even though I didn't tweaked my fighter loadout on Zuikaku, Akitsumaru, and Teste and the ones on the 3rd LBAS sent on the boss are just LBAS bombers. Granted, Isokaze did an AACI there (she has 100+ AA thanks to equipped with those two 5inch DD guns + GCFS) but I don't think it can contribute that much. CV Hime isn't sunk at that point either.

    Nagato and Mutsu can't DA due to their 2 Main Gun + Surface Radar + T1 AP Shell loadout.


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