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    Quote Originally Posted by 211303 View Post


    More friend fleet will come this weekend.
    Good to hear, I just hope they are GOOD friend fleets, and not something like the DE fleet right now....




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    Another day of being stuck on LD. Figured I'd complain about it on the forums since that seems to occasionally help with RNG.


    MIA: None

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    Finally cleared E3H...what a shot by Shigure, never thought she'd inflict such absurd TCI damage



    Part1:
    [+] Spoiler

    Can't use full drum/daihatsu setup since always got damaged preboss, so I had to chip it slowly. Also I have to send all LBAS(full bomber) to boss, otherwise A rank is impossible for me.

    Unlocking ZZ:
    • S rank in node S can be achieved with same TP fleet, just switch those drum/daihatsu to guns
    • D-F-I-K-N achieved with 6 SSV. I-401, I-400, I-13, and I-14 have better plane numbers. LBAS all fighters
    • T & U achieved with CTF, just equip many fighters on CV. LBAS all fighters
    • 2x AS+ air raid achieved by using LBAS all fighters set to defense, sortie with 6 SSV for minimal cost.


    Part2:
    [+] Spoiler

    Followed 211303 guide for most part

    Fleet 1 Chipping:
    Nagato K2 (2guns+FUMO+AP)
    Musashi K2(2guns+FUMO+AP+Obs)
    Saratoga MK2 (Tenzan Murata, Fighter Bomber 62 Iwai, Fighter 53 Iwamoto, F6F-5N)
    Haguro (2guns+Radar+Obs)
    Akitsumaru (full fighters)
    Teste (Full SPF)

    Fleet 2 Chipping:
    Myoukou (2 torp, Type 98, Searchlight)
    Abukuma K2 (Type A, 2 torp)
    Isokaze K2 (2 guns, Radar)
    Jervis (2 ASW, Radar)
    Libeccio (2 ASW, Radar)
    Verniy (Full ASW)

    LBAS 1: Type 2, Fighter, 2 bombers, Node Boss
    LBAS 2: Type 2, Fighter, 2 bombers, Node Boss
    LBAS 3: 4 Toukai, Node C and ZZ

    ASW Support: Taiyou K2(Type-97 931 x2+Type-97 931 Skilled+Tenzan 931), 3 CVL (3 Swordfish, 1 Fighter), 2DD

    Last Kill:

    Fleet 1:
    Nagato K2 (2guns+FUMO+AP)
    Musashi K2(2guns+FUMO+AP+Obs)
    Saratoga MK2 (Tenzan Murata, Fighter Bomber 62 Iwai, Fighter 53 Iwamoto, F6F-5N)
    Tone (Full SPF)
    Akitsumaru (full fighters)
    Teste (Full SPF)

    Fleet 2:
    Myoukou (2 torp, Type 98, Searchlight)
    Sendai (Full ASW)
    Isokaze K2 (2 guns, Radar)
    Naganami K2 (2 torp, Radar)
    Yukikaze (2 torp, Radar)
    Shigure K2 (Full Torp)

    LBAS and ASW Support same as chipping
    Boss Support: 3BB(2guns+2radar), 1CV(Full TB), 2DD (Full Radar)


    Current friend fleet are meh especially the DE one. I hope the upcoming friend fleet could make it easier for clearing/farming purpose.



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    @goesto11 The wiki is... kinda out of date. I got my info from wikiwiki and it appears that ASW support is just air support with ASW planes. Damage calculated off slot size.

    I used Gotland with T4, T4, Rocket, searchlight for my LD. She worked fine for stopping closing. Also freed up a slot to let me give Myoukou n3, 5o2, 5o2, T98.

    Here's the latest DD fit chart: https://i.imgur.com/i88R6Vf.png

    12.7C will give Isokaze/Arashi/Hagikaze 9 extra NB power and the Shiratsuyu 8 extra NB power.



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    Looks like complaining worked -- it's finally over. No Hayanami or Johnson, but I'm done with KC for now -- I'll probably resume farming during the weekend after the new friend fleets arrive.



    LOL at escort fleet being completely untouched. What made this run happen was a 200+ HP strike by a toukai on sub-hime in node C, and Abukuma doing the same in node ZZ. Node support is worthless -- I used it for this last run but I think total damage done for all appearances during the run amounted to something in the double-digit range. Got good RNG on Nagato's special cut-in, got the good friend fleet, and the rest is history.

    Fleet Comps:

    Main + Escort


    Support (AWS Node + Boss)


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    E-3 Hard Cleared



    RNG taketh, but RNG givith as well at times. Didn't take me long at all for LD. Easily had my best run of all sorties for Part 2. Myoukou got hit to chuuha at Node C, but that was pretty much it for damage on the way to the boss node (some minor scratch along the way). At the boss node, main fleet got hit pretty hard, but no damage to my escort fleet. With just Myoukou at chuuha (rest minor scratch or no damage), by far the best shape my escort fleet was in when starting NB.

    Still wasn't looking too good for NB. Boss had 809hp along with both BB Hime at light damage and CV Hime at chuuha. Kazagumo Friend Fleet was quite the friend indeed. Sinking one BB Hime and CV HIME along with taking the boss down to 613hp. Myoukou NB TCI is just enough to sink the remaining BB Hime then Kawakaze and Hagikaze unload on the boss to sink her. Quite surprising. Got some very good "dice" rolls with Kawakaze & especially Hagikaze NB DA.

    Overall, followed 211303's guides for this map.

    TP Gauge Fleet (sorry didn't take a pic):
    - Tone (99) 2x main + SPF + RADAR
    - Taihou (140) TB + DB + 2x best fighters
    - Gotland (98) 2xmain + Night Scout + RADAR
    - Kawakaze (99) 2x daihatsu + surface RADAR
    - Ooshio (99) 2x daihatsu + surface RADAR
    - Suzutsuki (99) normal AACI load out, but with GFCS mk37 (so counts for RADAR requirement)

    Ran Node shelling support along with LBAS per guide. Idea here was to try to get more S-ranks (hence no drums on Tone or Gotland. Did get mostly S-ranks, but Worked out OK, but probably could have put some drums on Gotland as Tone usually easily finished off the boss in NB.

    HP Gauge:
    Final Kill fleet:

    *NOTE: Arguably should have had one 16"/50+GFCS on Nagato & maybe Musashi as well. Eh, those two did fine. This part for me was ALL about getting past the two troll subs.

    For chipping, had Abukuma K2 with Ko-hyoteki + SONAR + DC and Kawakaze with 2x SONAR + DC for OASW. In retrospect, should have had a third OASW ships (Shigure probably or maybe Shiratsuyu). Also for chipping runs, I had Myoukou with 2x Main rather than 2x torps for NB TCI. Of the 4 times I made it to the boss node before getting to LD, I had one S-rank win and 3x A-rank (one almost S-rank as boss had 13hp left).

    My pass rate for chipping was 20% with 2x OASW ships and 4x Toukai LBAS once to Node C & ZZ. >_< Tried aerial support w/ 4x CVL + 2xDD, but that didn't do anything for me even when making sure to use 7+ or better ASW stat planes (before had a couple 6 ASW stat). Seen 2x CV + 2xCVL + 2xDD recommended for node support, but while I get that would be a better mix for helping out with Node J, Node J isn't a problem (1 maybe 2 retreats from there). I needed max help with the terror troll sub nodes. Don't really get it. I've used that comp and same planes (have a couple better now) with good results in previous events. I suspect that because LBAS ASW usually takes out all the escort SS (once in a while maybe one lives), ASW aerial support just can't do much against SS Hime. That and well, ASW Node support missed as well. Perhaps I needed RADAR and one less ASW plane on CVL. Not sure. Anyway, shelling boss support was definitely useful, and while wasted a lot of resource on failed runs, did make a difference at the Boss when I got there = highly recommend (certainly final kill).

    LBAS was also quite effective. Shudder to think if I didn't have one LBAS ASW group (and glad I have 4x Toukai). Per above, that definitely helped at Node C & ZZ with just one wave sent to each. Usually sinking most escort subs so my OASW ships had a chance to get SS Hime to chuuha at least. One less torp to dodge. 2x LBAS for boss node helped as well and a couple times surprised me with some good hits (used the new LBAS T2 Recon with fighter (Hayabusua 54th or 64th) + 2x LBAS bombers).

    As for whether to go NB DA w/ say Hagikaze & Arashi along with Isokaze and Kawakaze or go NB TCI with say Shigure, Yukikaze and/or Naganami instead of Hagikaze & Arashi, hard to say. NB DA comp worked well for me, but let's face it there's some RNG here. One big factor is how beat up is your escort fleet when NB starts. Personally, I like to stick with NB DA unless boss armor mandates NB TCI, but certainly going with NB TCI, is a valid option. I definitely had "Plan B" ready if it didn't seem like DA was going to work with Shigure & Yukikaze waiting at the docks. I do think that even with DD NB DA, I like Myoukou with NB TCI for LD if you have her as escort flagship.

    Big thanks to every one who posted comps/gave advice, and best of luck to those still working on clearing and/or farming for Johnston. I'm off to E-2 to rescue Hayanami (hopefully).

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    @Leyana: Yeah, as English only I'm definitely at a disadvantage when it comes to getting latest info/updates. Have to think that WikiWiki has it right (OT: bit RIP KC-DB).

    Appreciate the correction. It's just weird that it wouldn't work like normal plane ASW since shelling and standard aerial work pretty much like day shelling and opening airstrike. O.o. Also, sorry if I'm being obtuse, but does this also mean that CV(B) can attack subs with Aerial ASW support!? How odd.

    I guess then not much use for Shinyou & Taiyou for aerial ASW support expeditions despite good ship ASW stat.

    Thanks for the DD gun chart. Much appreciated. Ugh, so many equipment combo's to keep track of these days. OTOH, I got some 12.7cm Mod C +5 as a reward for quests (got them somewhere LOL) so got to use all 3. Also used the 12.7cm Mod B k4+FD as well. May want to do Quest F76 (for the 12.7cm Mod A K3 (Wartime Modification) + AAFD) after all.

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    @Forcyte: Congrats, and yes, sometimes I really do think complaining helps.

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    @Anomalyzer: Congrats

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    @Danielosama: Results vary (obviously), but frankly overall I thought Friend Fleet was pretty good - certainly helped me out, especially final kill. Still, if more powerful friend fleets are on the way, then that's good news for those farming Johnston on top of yet to clear. [Clarification] May need to point out that I'm strictly referring to the Kazagumo (4x DD) friend fleet which was the only one I got when I was at the boss node). Apparently looking at KC Wikia comments now, there's a Shinyou + DE F. Fleet - and yeah, can see your point on that one.


    Last edited by goesto11; 01-10-2019 at 10:13 AM. Reason: clarification
    Thanks to Arkayda for the signature.


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    @goesto11 Yeah that is apparently the case and pretty counter intuitive. CVs work for ASW support.

    Also the fit chart is still very much a gimmick. It's just that this particular map has not much AA that you can sacrifice the 10cmFD for more power. The new 12.7cmHAFDs are good though. Definitely do the quests for them.



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    @Leyana: Yeah, that's counter-intuitive alright, but if those are the rules, then go with it. So 2xCV + 2x CVL + 2xDD is the new ASW aerial support comp then? I guess put best TB/DB on CV largest slots, maybe an autogyro or two on CVL (won't help with surface fleets), fighters in small slots (as needed) and if not much airpower required in route, RADAR?

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    True, but I do sometimes use the DD fit guns Made a couple 12.7cm Mod D +4 for times like this (not used here, but you get the idea). NOT cheap though >_> As for the gun fit in general, fine with it for BB and perhaps CA, etc, but it's really getting a bit much IMO with so many different DD guns. The 12.7cm HA+FD variants are quite helpful since you can get the bonus, but still have a decent AA gun (maybe not quite as good for AA as 10cm HA+FD) which works for AACI as well.

    Speaking of DD AA guns, that 5inch Single Gun Mount Mk.30 Kai + GFCS Mk.37 seems to be the new best overall DD gun. Glad I got one (and props to rankers if they got another before event)


    Thanks to Arkayda for the signature.


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    The new friend fleet will be introduced in Friday evening. Guess in the very least it would reduce de fleet's rate.


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    @goesto11 thanks, congrats to you too. Good luck with rescuing Hayanami, I'm also heading there to find her.



 

 

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