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    @Mobius: Thanks! Will make a note of it. In that case, will probably need to go with Type 0 M62 Iwai (max) for DB on Taihou. In that case, not sure if I will stick with Tone as pure SPF or go with Com. Teste. Finally made it to the boss node. Probably could tweak a bit as well. Using Sendai ('cause like baka NB CL :D), but starting to think that ABKM with Ko-hyoteki + SONAR + DC just to help with sub nodes (plus LBAS and aerial ASW node support >_>), might be better.

    Also if I want a chance at S-rank, probably need to pull out Boss support if my run is anything to go by. Start of NB had 5 Escort fleet ships at chuuha and one at taiha. >_<


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    @goesto11 Yeah, you should run boss support during chipping. You only need the flagship sparkled so it's not like it's a big investment in time or ressources.

    I'd also recommend running at least one OASW ship during chipping. I had 2 and no ASW support expedition, and I still managed to get 3 S-rank during chipping. Increasing your passing rate should be your priority IMO.





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    @Mobius: Will do. Already decided to swap out Sendai (at least I got to use her a little bit I guess LOL) with ABKM and OASW load out. Will run boss support, but reason I hadn't until know is that I wasn't getting to the boss node easily. Will say this, I guess I can forget about S-rank for post clear farming on Hard since I'm not running support with farming (LBAS fine). Just too much - especially if RNG doesn't co-operate and you have to do 100+ sorties.

    Lastly, I thought having first two sparkled for boss support made a difference over just having the flagship sparkled. Is that not correct?


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    Excuse me if I'm blind, but do you guys know what happens to the routing if I don't open the ZZ shortcut? Can I set my fleet up to go to V somehow or is it random between V and U? Easy difficulty btw.



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    Quote Originally Posted by goesto11 View Post
    Lastly, I thought having first two sparkled for boss support made a difference over just having the flagship sparkled. Is that not correct?
    I can't remember reading anything like that, but I could be wrong. As far as trigger rates are concerned however, only the flagship seems to matter for boss support. From the wikia:

    Trigger rates

    This is the general trigger rate for all support expeditions.

    • Route support, normal morale: 50%
    • Route support, only flagship is sparkled: 65%
    • Route support, all ships are sparkled: 90%
    • Boss support, normal morale: 85%
    • Boss support, only flagship is sparkled: 100%

    The general algorithm is: 50% base + 15% if flagship is sparkled + 5%*N for N sparkled non-flagships + 35% if boss support.
    Since having only the flagship sparkled already guarantees a 100% triggering rate, sparkling other ships seems unnecessary.





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    @Mobius: Thanks! Well, that's a plus I guess, especially since at this rate I'm going to have a lot of useless Boss Support sorties bleeding morale.

    F***! Two more sorties, two more taiha retreats at Node ZZ. That's after at least one ship to chuuha at Node C. Even if I escape ZZ, I'm having 2-3 of my Escort (so NB) ships at chuuha when I get to the boss. Not helpful. ASW Node support seems utterly useless if you're using an LBAS group ASW as well. Gonna drop that.

    At this point seems I'll have to add an second ASW ship which isn't going to help my NB power at the boss node, but well, if I can't get to the boss node. Still,does make me wonder about how easy it's gong to be to get final kill with jump ion boss armor if I'm down 2x NB ships.

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    @Yakuman: Doesn't seem to be up on KC Wikia right now. KC Wiki has the following if you don't meet the requirements for 100% ZZ routing

    - If amount of (F)BB(V)+CV(B) ≤ 3, random routing between V and ZZ.
    - Else, random routing between U and ZZ.

    NOT 100% sure, but from this it seems that 3 or less (F)BB(V)+CV(B) in comp would route T -> V (i.e. essentially removing ZZ from the above since you don't have it unlocked). Hopefully others here can confirm or correct if needed. Still, if you can unlock ZZ and all it's sub-trollishness, may still be the better way to go on Easy.


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    @Mobius @goesto11 you may only need sparkling FS for trigger rate on boss support, but any sparkled support ship get an increase in accuracy so it's highly recommended to fully sparkling boss support, at least for LD.



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    @Murrue: True, though I think it's debatable how much it's worth it for DD. Anyway, LD is a loooong ways off for me. One the plus side, a 2nd OASW ship seems to help. Just one ship hit to light damage at Node C. OTOH, Akitsumaru got taiha'd at Node D. Just. Can. Not. Reach. Boss. Node. Really getting frustrating, and NOT giving me much confidence for farming post clear on hard.

    99.9% sure I know the answer to this, but since I have some RE saved up, does Akitsumaru (LHA) get the hax air-barrage with a 12cm Rockets K2? Not listed on KC Wikia, so probably not, but right now really would like it to be true.


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    @goesto11 Rocket barrage doesn't apply to LHA, only to BBV, CAV, AV and any kind of CV.

    Speaking of E3H itslef, I chipped boss using Ooi and Abukuma for OASW, Kawakaze, Isokaze, Naganami and Myouko with DA setup. LD was done with Gotlan and Tashkent OASW + searchlight/star shell, Isokaze DA and Myouko, Shigure and Naganami TCI.



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    Finally got the kill thanks to Yukikaze's TCI, after 30 LD attempts, 12 of them making it to the boss. God that was painful. And no Johnston despite A ranking all but once or twice, and not counting the S ranks I got from chipping. This has not been a good event for me D: At least the hard part is over.


    LD fleet should it be useful to anyone




    Big thanks to @211303 for the suggestion regarding CVB Saratoga, I think this helped a fair bit when it comes to FP.


    Last edited by Mobius; 01-08-2019 at 01:00 PM.



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