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    [Winter 2019] Farming for New Ships

    Wondering how players are approaching farming for the two new DD. I'm finishing up prep/will start E-1 quite soon at least, but I'm wondering about best way to farm for the two new ships. If it's better to farm prior to clear, need to know that before starting on E-2 & E-3.

    From what I've seen, both new DD are locked behind a phase/gauge + unlocking steps which makes it difficult to farm prior to clear (which I'm sure is the intent, but still...). I suppose I can exit/close the game ASAP if I do accidentally clear, but it's a risk (and I'd rather NOT be dong that a lot). Also, usure as to how easy it is to nerf just right to secure A rank win, but low chance of S-rank.

    Planning on all hard clear (want rewards) so I'm reluctant to drop down to Medium let alone Easy for better farming. Of course I can farm post Hard clear, but I have no idea how hard it is to (A) get to E-2 node P and E-3 Node Z reliably and (B) get at least A-rank if not S-rank (preferred) reliably without needing to use any support expeditions (key! Sparking is bad enough to clear, but intolerable when I'm potentially doing 100+ sorties to farm). No problem using LBAS to farm (except frustrating to wait out morale).

    Thoughts? Suggestions?

    Also, as with previous threads of this type, feel free to post all farming questions, recommended comps, etc.

    Thanks.


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    @goesto11 well, I have already farmed Hayanami post clear, and is getting on farming Johnston.

    E2H is pretty farmable with the clearing fleet. Nelson touch provides a high passing rate at node M, and the boss is easy enough to S rank consistently.

    E3H would really depend on the friend fleet's quality. If it is strong enough, you will have the room to bring enough OASW to shut down loli sub, which would significantly increase the passing rate.

    Both map would still be very expensive though, as you can't really go with a budget comp if you want S rank.


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    @211303: Thanks. So E-2 I should plan to farm post Hard clear then since it's not worth doing Phase 1, etc. and going for A-ranks on casual. For E-3 though, LOT to do but, given what you wrote, wondering if it's better to try to farm prior to clear given expense and difficulty. Lot of work/time to clear a gauge, unlock, etc., but if it gives me a much higher pass rate to the boss and cuts down on expense (though over 250k each resources fine + 1.4k buckets). Thinking that might be the better way to go UNLESS it is no longer the case that if you immediately exit if you blow up the gauge, it doesn't count. JMO and all, but would have been nice if you could farm Johnston at least at E-3 Part 1 boss. :/

    My fleet and equipment are pretty good - I think at least. Some of the historic bonus DD will be level 80+ rather than 90-99, but all the rest will be 90-99 (maybe a couple waifu). Equipment is pretty good as well. No 46cm Kai (working on that), but lots of high-end improved stuff.


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    @211303 Do you think support expeditions are necessary/essential for post-clear farming on those two maps in Hard? Thanks!



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    @BlitzAceSamy Not really.

    The only big threat in E2 is the BB hime node, which is dealt with 2 waves of bombers and Nelson touch.

    The main preboss threat of E3 is sub loli, which expedition is not effective against.


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    Farming E3 on hard seems depressing, is it possible?

    With the amount of unlocks and gimmicks needed, don't really feel I have the time or sanity to farm it on easy and then clear it on hard, just so much work and time.



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    @IronWarrior If you go with A rank farming and bring multiple OASW, passing rate is quite acceptable. Drop rate isn't particularly high though, so it will take time and resources.


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    I'm currently farming E-3 with a slightly modified pre-LD fleet:

    Nagato / Ise / Intrepid / Kumano / Myoukou / Akitsumaru

    Nisshin / Gotland / Tashkent / Naganami / Yuudachi / Isokaze


    Everyone at final remodel + max modernization, except Nisshin...

    Equipment:

    Lv111 Nagato: Gun x2, AP Shell, Radar
    Lv98 Ise: Gun x2, DB, FT, Recon, [Rockets K2]
    Lv108 Intrepid: TB, TB, DB, FT
    Lv137 Kumano: Gun x2, Radar, SPF, [+10 8cm+MG]
    Lv99 Myoukou: Gun x2 Radar, Recon
    Lv94 Akitsumaru: FT x3, [pom-pom]

    Lv38 Nisshin: Gun x2 + Night Recon
    Lv96 Gotland: ASW x4
    Lv96 Tashkent: ASW x4
    Lv113 Naganami: Gun x2 + Radar, [Bofors]
    Lv133 Yuudachi: Torp x2 + Radar, [Bofors] (luck modded)
    Lv93 Isokaze: HA Gun x2 + GFCS

    Fighter Power: ~417, AS at boss and air raid nodes

    Still somewhat suboptimal - only if Nisshin was at her Lv60 form that'd be great.
    Haguro and Kawakaze are locked elsewhere and could not be used.
    Nisshin was used to free up Myoukou from the escort, and to the main fleet. Nisshin is surprisingly effective in the boss node (and I could level her along).

    This comp consistently damages loli-sub to chuuha or above before closing.
    Most of the time chuuhas her on OASW, but never sinks her.
    So it's pretty much guaranteed only the opening torp threatens my fleet.

    I originally went with 3 OASW ships, but figured the only difference was the 3 OASW fleet very rarely kills the sub hime during OASW and the rest is the same - there's almost always one RNG torp reaching the fleet.

    The fleet kind of works like the heavier fleet with Musashi, but noticeably cheaper (especially with fuel).

    Unfortunately, I seem to be extremely unlucky.
    I only reached boss node 6 times out of 12 sorties today, of which one was a D-Defeat and the rest 4 were A-Clears mostly because of weak friend fleet support and/or Nagato special attack not triggering.
    Most retreats were as expected - the loli hime one-shoting someone because of taihaa-protection failure, and the rest were pinpoint attack on an already damaged fleet.

    So far I've sortied about 45 times post-clear (about 20 times with a sans-Musashi fleet), reached boss 25 times, S x7, A x15, C x2, D x1.

    Notable drops: 2x Kaibokans, 1x Maruyu, 3x Teruzuki (WHAT? COME ON!! WHY??)

    Resources down from 262/280/286/270 since post-clear farm, to 226/266/262/255

    This seems one of my worst event for farming... It takes a long time per sortie, high failure rate and high resource consumption and can't easy-farm-hard-clear.
    I still don't have any new drops yet (i.e. neither Hayanami nor Johnston dropped)


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    Quote Originally Posted by kazenorin View Post
    This seems one of my worst event for farming... It takes a long time per sortie, high failure rate and high resource consumption and can't easy-farm-hard-clear.
    Wholeheartedly agreed.

    Being relatively new, it might just be because I haven't done many events so far, but... has there ever been an event where new ships are this difficult to farm? And I'm not just talking about Johnston. E2 is a nightmare, requiring a fully sparkled node support and pre-boss LBAS to get an acceptable passing rate. And then you're still settling for A-ranks half the time because you won't have LBAS at boss, so at least one PT imp tends to survive, and there isn't any friend fleet either... That's at least 1k fuel/ammo per sortie for combined fleet + support. And the droprates, holy shit... Can we talk about the droprates? Less than 4% for Hayanami on S-rank, slightly above 4% for Johnston. Compare those to some other recent destroyer drops: Kishinami had over 6% at S-rank and Hamanami had over 7%. Really? Make the map a real pain to farm AND nerf the drop rates? Thanks, Tanaka.

    Sorry if it came off as ranty, but that's what you get when you're 42 A/S-ranks into E2H and no Hayanami in sight. I seriously envy people who got her during clearing, wish I had their luck.




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    @kazenorin I feel you, it feels like if this keeps going I won't be getting Johnston.




 

 

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