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    So how the hell am I supposed to chip the boss when I can't GET to the boss with CTF. Running Node support, but doesn't matter. On hard troll sub node is out. If not taiha, then someone to chuuha who is then taiha'd later. Hell, Node G of all places is sending me back. This map is too damn expensive with E-5 to go. Shouldn't need 200k fuel, etc. to clear two maps. IDK what devs will do if anything. Better Friend fleet doesn't mean much when you can't get to the boss.

    At this point, not sure what to do. LAST thing I want to fail on all Hard clear and not get Fletcher as well, but tha't's looking like a high probability. This is ridiculous. E-5 Friend Fleet better be hax/OP after this map.

    @Kuropo: Any thoughts? As I recall, I think you posted that CTF getting to boss (and at boss) was pretty much cancer, but with STF & Start 3 it wasn't too bad. Hows pass rate for STF start 3 for farming (LBAS only) - especially without Nelson since I figure I'll need her for E-5. Honestly, I don't know if I'll have enough fuel, etc. for E-5 at this rate. Just keep getting taiha'd and NOT bloody sparkling CTF (or STF).

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    @DLRevan: See, Casual wasn't a bad way to go after all. Unfortunately, ranting for me didn't do anything. Also, as Kuropo says, S-ranks are VERY hard. Hell, STF better be a LOT better than CTF to get to the boss. Hard, as one would expect, is MUCH more difficult than Casual. Sure 5% (almost) drop on Hard S-rank, but what's the passing rate? If it's not 75% or so, then.with little chance of S-rank, Casual is the way to go here.


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    After 7 failed attempts, I gave up and reorganized the fleet to get the best friend fleet, both BBs with AP, Akagi being fighter mule to let Nisshin DA with WG42. After that I sparkled everyone (irako on the Italian BBs to save resources) and set up node support as well.

    First sortie after the changes, literally every phase that's possible the boss gets hit.



    57k fuel, 44k ammo and 41k bauxite. E-5 hard may be close for me.



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    @ofi123; How did you deal with CTF getting to boss for chipping? I'm getting killed. Again. Also, assuming dupe Akagi. Don't have dupes (well, kind of sort of, but old stuff like KTKM, Maya, etc.) so not an option to lock a bunch of new ships.

    Also, I thought STF & final kill was the easy part of this map. Getting to that point was the tough part.


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    @goesto11

    CTF was a slough. Some pointers that helped me a lot:

    1) Strong friend fleet. Most of my chipping damage is done by the friend fleet. Hiei/Kirishima from friend fleet can deal 300+ damage to the boss singlehandedly if they target the boss.

    2) Putting a BB in escort helps. Especially if node support is used she can disable or take out Nu kai and Ru quite reliably.

    3) Sparkling. Normally I am in the belief of sparkling = take less hits but when a hit is taken it's usually a crit. But nearly all damaging hits taken are almost as bad as crits, the extra evasion helps.

    4) Node support. I tried with only boss support at first and use 1 LBAS strike on nodes J and O, but the lack of LBAS on boss node can be significant and cause too many enemies stay alive and mess with friend fleet shelling. Plus support generally does better on node J than single LBAS due to high AA, thus increasing the chance of escort BB disabling/sinking the Wo/Nu.

    5) If you use any CVB and have plenty of steel to spare, jets can help. In rare events they do take out artillery imps or disable Nu/Ru during jet phase, though even if they took out DDs it can still help. But expect more miss/scratch than actual damaging hits though.

    6) FCF since more than likely friend fleet is the one chipping hard. I had 3 DDs lined up for FCF activation, though the 3rd one usually will cause a retreat since she carried radar. (I will proceed to the extra air raid though if I still have 3 left after that, but usually I don't)
    I literally have boss battles with 2 FCF activation that forced me into formation 2 instead of formation 4 since I mainly relied on friend fleet to chip. I found sparkling to be helpful, and if you don't want to use any LBAS other than in the boss node support is nearly a must.


    As for my last dance failures, it was still much easier than E-3. Had 5 retreats, 1 catbomb going into boss node with full healthy ships, and 2 failed kills 1 of which was a near kill mistargeting. (Generally expect 3 enemies to be alive, hence my decision to switch out Hiei and Kirishima to get their friend fleet to increase chance of striking out airfield hime)


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    Started sending double support (full sparkled node, half-sparkled boss support), along with @friggo 's comp

    So far all three runs made it to the boss, and chipped more than my past 10+...

    So looks like node support and boss support is kind of important...

    Below 1500 now, onto STF ...


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    Chipping this boss is just....

    Making it to the boss 2 ships down, limping away after a C or D rank, spending 1000+ steel and 10+ buckets to repair, and that's supposed to be a win?!?

    Even tho I know I'm making progress, this is a whole new level of salt.



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    @Etrigan

    Win? I have a few C and D ranks and I still consider those a success when Hiei/Kirishima/Kongou from friend fleet targets the boss and almost none from my fleet does.



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    @DLRevan Sorry for the late reply. Yes, it is still rather difficult due to the lack of anti-surface ship in the fleet. Adding a dupe CLT probably will help, as well as using Nelson here.


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    @ofi123 Success is probably a better way of saying it than 'win', but either way it's draining. I can't imagine doing this before the friend fleets were implemented.

    And now I need to resparkle, so I think that's it for tonight.



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    How critical to the damage is the BB during CTF phase? I have a dupe Iowa that could be useful, but I'm a bit warry about the ressource usage. I'll use her if she's really useful, otherwise I'll just use a BB that uses less ressources.


    Last edited by Mobius; 06-09-2019 at 01:33 PM.



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