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    For LBAS, I would recommend a third option of 6 AD comp:

    34/34/nonaka/t1
    34/ginga/t1/t1
    Ginga/22a/22a/toukai

    The minimal fighter power of each base has to be 63/53/46 respectively.

    As for the nagato touch with fcf, gun,gun,radar is the worst possible option.


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    Wait, are you saying to ditch fighters for pure bombers for LBAS? Will AD with 4 bombers be better than AP with 3?

    And thanks for the FCF. Guess I'll try to go with gun+gun+AP, if not gun+AP+radar if I really need to get that radar.



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    Quote Originally Posted by friggo View Post
    I'm slowly preparing my comp for E5 and will get started as soon as the friend fleet is implemented. Several questions though:

    1. I only have 2 toukai. Should I bring an OASW setup DD for phase 1 or will SBR + Johnston be enough to get through the sub node?

    2. I don't have a large searchlight. Is a BB yasen mule still worth bringing for phase 2 with a regular searchlight, or is a luckmodded Myoukou better?

    3. I don't have upgraded OTO-s. Do I just put another regular large gun on Nagato?

    4. Which destroyer should I healthmod for this map - Kasumi (up to 33) or Johnston (up to 35)? I figure even a failed mod would at least give luck = better cut-in chances for TCI. But which to prioritize?

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    Hmm, I thought boss support would be a bad choice for chipping due to Re-elite. What's the reasoning here?
    1. If you are talking about p1, both sbr and johnston with 1 sonar is really good enough. For p2, only one toukai is needed.

    2. Well, that would really depends whether you want a TCI that deals on average 30 damage to boss and 110 damage to BB oni if triggered, or two more slots for flare and searchlight, which in turn provides extra torp for your Samuel/Johnston (around 70 extra damage for their TCI). I personally would still go for the mule, and a BB is a better mule than a CA due to Re elite's opening torp.

    3. Calculate the actual firepower of the two setup in parallel engagement and times x1.10 (for 2 main gun+ap+radar) and x1.15 (for red+yellow+ap+radar) respectively. Pick the higher one.

    4. Kasumi since she is a good TCI ship even without historical bonus. You are not gonna use Johnston for TCI in a non-American event.

    As for the support, a single Re-elite is actually rather easy to deal with. You will likely find the chipping part to be rather comfy.

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    @ofi123 Plane loss of lbas in AD and AP are 3-7 and 2-5 respectively. I believe that is a good enough trade off for two more hits. Some also replace the extra bomber in the first two bases with LBAS recon for extra damage per hit from contact. I can't say which is the better option.


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    @211303 Thanks.

    Noticed your reply to friggo. 3 questions I have:
    1) What is the difference in NB modifier between searchlight and large searchlight?
    2) So is secondary gun for 2nd gun better for 2gun+ap+radar?
    3) Somewhat related to 2, is there any extra modifier from using 41cm triple k2 and 41cm dual k2 for nagtsu for touch other than the extra stats?



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    @211303 Thanks, I guess I'd be going with SBR and Kongou then

    In terms of equipment for Kongou, she should carry 2x trops + large searchlight + night scouter?


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    1) Same for CI rate, but the large searchlight has around 10% more taunt rate.
    2) Yes if the equipment is good enough that you can cap in parallel engagement in both comp. You are basically increasing the damage output in parallel and green T with the extra ap shell bonus (1.10 vs 1.15), but the damage output in head on will be lower.
    3) None.

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    @kazenorin Actually I will suggest searchlight, flare, radar, night scout.

    With the 6 radar requirement and the lack of base stat for bonus ship, you really want to save more slot to maximize damage on the bonus ship while carrying as many night battle equipment as possible.


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    @211303 Makes sense, thanks :)


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    @211303 or anyone else: Like to get a fleet review here. Proposed E-5 Hard clearing fleet as follows (**Forgot 25mm Triple Conc.in Musashi's RE slot**)


    FYI - Prinz Eugen and Kitami are (over) luck modded (60+). Not 100% sure if GFCS Mk.37 better than FuMo25 here or not. Went with that on Prinz E. since +1 more FP and won't cap out with only 2x torps (and need Sextuple on Sammy B). Using Quad Oxy late model torps on Kasumi for extra bonus (according to KC3 Kai).

    Questions on top of general review:

    1) Comparing example with Nelson fleet, notice that the Nelson fleet has Ise K2 which I thought would be used regardless so you'd have another fighter. I can only assume it's worth giving up CVCI to get Musashi K2 over Ise with Nagato/Mutsu fleet and I'll still have enough air power. Only reservation is that I would like to have Kasumi at least with triple torps, but see next question on that.

    2) Reading some about using an FBB in Escort. Can't see using Iowa there, especially if using Nelson Touch, but maybe Bismarck (probably better than Kongou K2C)? Since apparently CA, even with NB TCI are mostly there to carry NB equipment and won't do that much other than chip, I can do that as well with an FBB which may be tougher against Re-Elite. Also 15cm Searchlight an option (though not improved) to draw more enemy fire vs. standard searchlight. Thinking just make the FBB an NB equipment & RADAR mule with Searchlight, T98 Night Scout, Radar, star shell. Place 2nd in order (want escort flag bonus for NB TCI trigger). That allows me to put another Quint Oxy +7 on Sammy B Roberts. Maybe going down a rabbit hole here. Could effectively do the same with Prinz Eugen (though not as tough) in terms of being a mule.

    3) I suppose that ABKM even with DA load out will do "enough" here thanks to bonus. Also opening torp may help in route. Then again, if I had another spot (e.g. Jintsuu) for T98 Night Scout, I could go triple torps on Prinz E and at least cap out with NB TCI. 99.9% sure way to go is Abukuma even without NB TCI. Could alternatively put searchlight on Prinz E and go triple torps on Sammy B. Meh. Just not thrilled with only 2x torps on Sammy B, Kasumi and even Prinz E (though see #2 above about one ship just being a mule for stuff).

    Other than that, other comments/suggestions welcome.

    PS. I want to cry when thinking about what this fleet is going to cost with Nagato K2, Mutsu K2, Musashi K2 and Iowa K2. Retreats & repairs are going to absolutely BRUTAL.


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    I really hope Akagi k2 won't stop Akagi k2e appearing. Ah who am I kidding. All my effort to rush dupe Akagi to k2....




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    Quote Originally Posted by goesto11 View Post
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    Proposed E-5 Hard clearing fleet as follows (**Forgot 25mm Triple Conc.in Musashi's RE slot**)


    FYI - Prinz Eugen and Kitami are (over) luck modded (60+). Not 100% sure if GFCS Mk.37 better than FuMo25 here or not. Went with that on Prinz E. since +1 more FP and won't cap out with only 2x torps (and need Sextuple on Sammy B). Using Quad Oxy late model torps on Kasumi for extra bonus (according to KC3 Kai).

    Questions on top of general review:

    1) Comparing example with Nelson fleet, notice that the Nelson fleet has Ise K2 which I thought would be used regardless so you'd have another fighter. I can only assume it's worth giving up CVCI to get Musashi K2 over Ise with Nagato/Mutsu fleet and I'll still have enough air power. Only reservation is that I would like to have Kasumi at least with triple torps, but see next question on that.

    2) Reading some about using an FBB in Escort. Can't see using Iowa there, especially if using Nelson Touch, but maybe Bismarck (probably better than Kongou K2C)? Since apparently CA, even with NB TCI are mostly there to carry NB equipment and won't do that much other than chip, I can do that as well with an FBB which may be tougher against Re-Elite. Also 15cm Searchlight an option (though not improved) to draw more enemy fire vs. standard searchlight. Thinking just make the FBB an NB equipment & RADAR mule with Searchlight, T98 Night Scout, Radar, star shell. Place 2nd in order (want escort flag bonus for NB TCI trigger). That allows me to put another Quint Oxy +7 on Sammy B Roberts. Maybe going down a rabbit hole here. Could effectively do the same with Prinz Eugen (though not as tough) in terms of being a mule.

    3) I suppose that ABKM even with DA load out will do "enough" here thanks to bonus. Also opening torp may help in route. Then again, if I had another spot (e.g. Jintsuu) for T98 Night Scout, I could go triple torps on Prinz E and at least cap out with NB TCI. 99.9% sure way to go is Abukuma even without NB TCI. Could alternatively put searchlight on Prinz E and go triple torps on Sammy B. Meh. Just not thrilled with only 2x torps on Sammy B, Kasumi and even Prinz E (though see #2 above about one ship just being a mule for stuff).

    Other than that, other comments/suggestions welcome.

    PS. I want to cry when thinking about what this fleet is going to cost with Nagato K2, Mutsu K2, Musashi K2 and Iowa K2. Retreats & repairs are going to absolutely BRUTAL.
    First of all, you would want to put a 10cm twin high-angle gun mount kai + additional machine guns instead in Musashi's expansion slot for her special AACI.

    I did not find CVCI to be that important to have or miss, but it is still an option. You will get air denial at air strike nodes and air parity at double Re-class node in that case. However, I still managed to reach the boss without fatal injuries under those conditions. Boss battle should be air supremacy regardless, even with just 1 fighter in first land base.

    There have been fleet compositions popping up with fBB in escort fleet carrying the night battle equipment and radar. I have tried this yesterday as well but did not find it necessarily better. Though not as strong as the DDs (due to lower damage bonus multiplier), my TCI Myoukou was still able to deal decent damage. Both compositions are just fine in my opinion.

    I have not tried double attack setup on Abukuma (since mine is luck modded and I have sufficient good torpedoes), so I can only tell you that I have seen her deal big damage to the boss with TCI. Of couse, if your Abukuma does not have adequate luck stat, you should keep to double attack setup. I can imagine it doing good damage still.

    The closest I have gotten to killing the boss in final form was in my very first attempt. That composition was with Nelson in main fleet and Myoukou (instead of fBB) in escort fleet.
    However, I gave the composition with Nagato and Mutsu in main fleet and fBB in escort fleet a couple of tries yesterday (after finally obtaining Fletcher). It worked out decently too, but as I said before, I do not think this is vastly superior. In the end, you have to rely on a couple of TCI critical hits from ships with a bigger historical bonus (American DDs and/or Abukuma).

    Lastly, it takes around 3-4k fuel per sortie (on E-5-2 final kill attempts) for me. Pretty massive consumption indeed. However, you could sortie lighter fleets to E-5-1 and E-5-2 pre-final. As I have mentioned before, I consider E-5-1 to be comparable to E-1 in terms of difficulty. Nelson touch is sufficient here and you can also leave out Musashi. The fBB in escort fleet composition should definitely be kept just for E-5-2 final kill only or the entirety of E-5-2 if you do not care about fuel consumption at all.


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