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    Hmm. Still waiting for the complete list. Early impression. Either not bring the USN or IJN ships that have the bonuses, otherwiseDesDiv 17 say hello instead. The full USN friend fleet with as many TBM-3D as the number of burgers lol.



    Last edited by ofi123; 06-12-2019 at 09:19 AM.

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    Loadout is really goos judging from the video and change to main fleet is minimal. Dropping akagi for sara cvb might be optimal if there isn't other choice. I will update later.


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    I am going to stick with my initial ships. Mine are far more capable than these Friend fleet ones. I already got close to clearing this map several times and I am certain I can do it even without Friend fleet. If Friend fleet only gives me a small nudge, I think it should not take me long before I get that final kill.


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    @211303

    Do you think if I use Akagi k2 it won't be counted as Akagi k2e? :P


    Quote Originally Posted by ofi123 View Post
    I really hope Akagi k2 won't stop Akagi k2e appearing. Ah who am I kidding. All my effort to rush dupe Akagi to k2....




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    Quote Originally Posted by ofi123 View Post
    Do you think if I use Akagi k2 it won't be counted as Akagi k2e? :P
    It probably will, since you cannot put both her regular Kai Ni and E variant in the same fleet together either.


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    At first glance, even dropping the Americans altogether might be an option, considering how strong their FFs are.
    Back to planning everything all over again, I guess...



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    Quote Originally Posted by friggo View Post
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    At first glance, even dropping the Americans altogether might be an option, considering how strong their FFs are.
    Back to planning everything all over again, I guess...
    I will strongly recommend against removing Johnston as she is your strongest tci choice and should be saved for firing in the last place when enemy numbers are few.

    FF's Jonston ia also using some joke loadout of one hit CI.

    The reason for dropping Akagi is that Sara cvb isn't a downgrade of Akagi, but a sidegrade.

    In any case, I need to read all the comps before giving any comment and that will be a few hours later when I get home.


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    Quick question: Does gun+torp+radar CI deal more damage than gun+gun+radar?



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    @Kuropo: Thanks. I forgot about the 10cm HA+MG. Until this event, I just used 90mm HA on Maya and rarely (ever?) used it on Musashi/Yamato since counts as main for NB (matters with single fleet map such as 6-5 or E-2). However, used it for Ooyodo last map and I've been working on upgrading one this event. :/ RIP screws. Anyway, will add 10cm HA+MG in Musashi RE to my notes.

    Re. Ise K2 w/ Nagato Fleet. I see your point. Have to think that by now, comps are pretty well established (i..e best go with what's listed). I'll stick to which ever build I use from 211303's guide.

    Re. ABKM. I think I'm just stuck with ABKM no matter what given higher armor boss & meat shields, etc. Damage bonus is significant. Still, have a feeling she's not going to do much with NB DA.

    Re. FBB in Escort: This is probably the biggest question for me. Hmm... Was using Prinz E due to luck mod and comments that CA in the end don't do much unless get some good dice rolls so go with higher NB TCI trigger rate. With Prinz E, I won't have damage potential of Myoukou K2 (Prinz E K2 when?). I could go with Myoukou, but yeesh. Another default luck ship. As you say: "In the end, you have to rely on a couple of TCI critical hits from ships with a bigger historical bonus (American DDs and/or Abukuma)" - though it should be noted at according to KC Wikia, Kasumi has a larger bonus than Abukuma.

    To put it simply, I'll have to rely upon SB Roberts, Johnston and Kasumi, and if that's the case, I'd like to maximize damage potential with those three. Just hate having to put only 2x torps on 2 of the 3 NB TCI ships I'm relying upon to clear. So FBB mule is becoming more and more attractive given my fleet. It would allow for a 3rd torp on either SB Roberts or Kasumi (one will have to have RADAR). Should be able to also squeeze in star shell on the FBB. CI trigger rate bonus isn't much (and that's IF star shell triggers), but well, ain't gonna hurt. Also 150cm Searchlight will tank more. OTOH, have to figure just getting scratch from FBB (why I'm thinking of placing 2nd). Still, there is the possibility that CA NB TCI (even with Prinz E instead of Myoukou) may do something other than scratch.

    Meh. To me this is damned if you do, damned if you don't given my fleet. Leaning towards using FBB - Bismarck Drei specifically (thinking will tank a bit better than Kongou K2C). It's just hard for me to gauge this.

    LOL, looks like I might have saved Akagi for nothing given Friend Fleets. Oh well E-4's done and gone (thankfully). Also looks like I may have to do some sort of modernization fodder farming since I'll have to convert my Saratoga to CVB (also RIP more ammo & steel >_<).

    Still... Saratoga CVB = 4 slots so where is that RADAR off Akagi K2 going? I guess Mutsu w/ Nagato fleet (at least get more bonus that way). For Nelson fleet I guess on Saratoga CVB (with 2x fighters + TB) so no CVCI with that.

    Lastly, glad E-5 FFleet is here. Not up on tweets (don't read Japanese) so was wondering when. Thought it might be couple days later TBH, but sooner the better.

    PS - Yeah, I'm definitely going to cry when I see the sortie costs. I finally understand the symbolism behind Boss Node Z's icon centered in what looks to be a black hole. It's to represent resource costs for this map (and event). :P


    Last edited by goesto11; 06-12-2019 at 11:31 AM.
    Thanks to Arkayda for the signature.


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    Additional question: Why did I meet SS hime when I only have 3 CVs?


    EDIT: FML. Didn't know Ise with AA radar + rocket k2 = AACI and overwrote my Maya AACI....

    EDIT2: After switching to STF since I have no idea what went wrong with my CTF fleet that got sent to SS hime with only 3 CV(B), 3 straight S ranks in the boss node. I think it's safe to say it's possible to farm A ranks in node Z with TTF with strong friend fleet.


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