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    @goesto11 I saw in the discord at least that someone said FFs would come, but I have no idea.
    Also, I may wait and just copy your fleets like last event haha.



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    @firehawk12: Thanks. Was curious about that. Have no clue how hard this event is in terms of E-2 & E-3 other than it seems it's not among what's considered the most difficult EO maps. Thus, wasn't sure whether FFleets or not this event.

    As for the last part, you're welcome to do that, but IDK if my comps will be 100% ideal. LOL. I'm going off a lot of what others are posting with maybe a tweak or two here. FWIW, so far looking at Richelieu (of course), Shouhou, Hiyou, Fubuki K2, Hatsuharu K2 and/or Isokaze B for clear along with SSV. Seen a lot of I-400, but would think could use say I-8 or I-26 as well. 1 vs 3 for plane slots, but doubt that will make a difference here when using SPF, and those two have a bit more evasion as well. Still will need to sparkle SSV all sorties. Holding off on using any 3 slot SSV for E-1. For unlocking, probably Naka for CL and grab a high level Kai DD or maybe Hamakaze B for a 4th DD. [EDIT] Actually, need 5x DD at some point so I'll just grab some high level Kai standard DD (or two and not use one of the listed ones LOL). As far as I can tell all of the above are "safe" (though keep in mind my sources are here, KC Wiki and Reddit (mostly main post for stuff like historic bonus, haven't vetted reply comments).

    As for CVL planning, seen a few 2x CVL comps for E-2. Not much on KC Wikia for E-3 yet, but hard to imagine needing more than 2x CVL there since it's a one tag map. With Chitose, Chiyoda, Zuihou, Ryoujou and Junyou (along with Suzuya/Kumano CVL variants) that's plenty IMO so feel fine locking Shouhou & Hiyou to E-1.


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    I haven't finished E3 final boss yet (at LD, redoing the debuff steps after I did them one time earlier and then realised they don't count argh thanks internet info) but since 211 hasn't made a shiplock guide (he probably will soon) yet here is my records.


    Recommendations

    Note that this list assumes you own at least one copy of all ships in the game. (alternatives for dupes/recently introduced ships will be noted).
    Bold
    is absolutely essential ships, if you don't have them, you may have to gimp yourself in another map to make passing easier (obviously prioritise later maps if planning to do Hard difficulty).
    Italics are for relevant ships with damage bonuses that are not already bold.


    E1:
    Richelieu, 2 CVL (slow is ok, e.g. Hiyou and Junyou), 1 CL, 2 or 3 DDs of reasonable strength (possibly one with OASW capability), 2 or 3 common DDs for unlocking (total 5 DDs), 1 3-slot SSV if subcheesing (I-13 or I-14)

    Sample fleet
    Richelieu, Hiyou, Junyou, Isokaze B, Tanikaze D, I-14 (subcheese),
    Richelieu
    , Hiyou, Junyou, Isokaze B, Tanikaze D, Naka (non-subcheese, south route)
    Richelieu
    , Junyou, Tanikaze D (OASW), Naka, Isokaze B, Hamakaze B (non-subcheese, north route, chance of Commandant/Akitsushima drops)


    E2 Part 1:
    1 CVE (Zuihou K2B for stats, won't be needed in E3), 1 CAV, 2 CA (not Prinz. Possibly at least one TCI capable for part 2 e.g. Myoukou), 1 CL (either Giuseppe Garibaldi or luckmodded Abukuma K2 or 4-slot CL)
    7DDs - exact choices depend on the amount of anti-installation equipment you have, but I recommend one FCF carrier, one-Fletcher class only if you have both/dupes, the rest as tank holders/anti-imp. Mutsuki-class are okay here as the first boss is not strong. Don't use Jervis, she's needed in E3.

    Sample fleet

    Main Fleet: Murasame, Satsuki, Fumizuki, Ooshio, Kumano CAV, Zuihou K2B
    Escort Fleet: Garibaldi/Abukuma K2 with tanks/4-slot CL, Fletcher or Shiratsuyu, Kawakaze, Arashio, Kako, Myoukou


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    2 Part 2:
    Ark Royal
    , 2 Euro FBB (e.g. Pasta BBs, Bismarck) OR Nagato+Mutsu, 2 CAV+Tama or 3 CAV (needed for bringing SPF, you can also use Pola)
    1 CL (Giuseppe Garibaldi or luckmodded Abukuma K2 or other CL), 3 TCI DDs or 2 TCI DDs+Fletcher-class or other OASW+utility mule, 1 CLT+Myoukou or 2 CLTs (if you have KitaOoi dupes)

    Note that you can have a max of 3 CA(V)s, and you also need one ship to be a SPF mule. If you bring 2 CLTs and not have a TCI CA in your escort, your SPF mule in the main fleet can be another CAV.

    Sample fleet
    Euro BB method: (Fast fleet required)
    Main Fleet: Ark Royal, Italia, Roma, Pola, Kumano CAV, Tama or Mogami (SPF mule)
    Escort Fleet: Garibaldi/Luckmodded Abukuma K2/other TCI CL, Shigure, Yukikaze, Fletcher or Shiratsuyu, Ooi, Myoukou TCI or dupe Kitakami

    Nagamutsu touch method: (Slow fleet, extra airstrike at Q, Nagamutsu touch at boss)
    Main Fleet: Nagato, Mutsu, Ark Royal, Pola, Kumano CAV, Tama or Mogami or Mizuho (SPF mule)
    Escort Fleet: Garibaldi/Luckmodded Abukuma K2/other TCI CL, Shigure, Yukikaze, Fletcher or Shiratsuyu, Ooi, Myoukou TCI or dupe Kitakami


    E3 Part 1
    2 fast Euro/US BB (Upspeeded Nelson, Bismarck, Pasta BBs, Iowa), 1 fast CVL,3 CA(V)s (e.g. Zara, 1 CAV, Prinz Eugen or another CAV that will only do installation killing for this part), Upspeeded Commandant Teste and Nisshin (not absolutely essential but incredible utility value throughout the map+ability to carry tanks), otherwise 2 anti-installation DDs
    Giuseppe Garibaldi/Abruzzi or 4 slot CL (Yura is helpful for tank-carrying ability+utility), Fletcher/Johnston and Jervis or two anti-installation/anti-imp DDs, CLT or another anti-installation/imp/OASW DD.

    Alternative - 6 SS(V) for subcheese method (relatively unreliable pass rate and must send supports, but capable of producing results with luck)

    Sample Fleet (fleet must be fast for best routing, Nelson touch at pre-boss)
    Main Fleet: Nelson (Fast), Suzuya CAV, Iowa, Commandant Teste (Fast), Zara, Chitose CVL
    Escort Fleet: Prinz Eugen or Tone, Kitakami, Johnston, Asashio K2D, Yura, Nisshin


    E3 Part 2
    The unlocking steps won't be discussed, basically cobble together a fleet from those used for both fleets that meets the requirements and utility required (anti-installation, anti-imp, OASW, AACI)

    For Part 2 boss, you need a mix of anti-installation (double attack+tank/T3) as well as historical TCI in your escort. Nukes (WG42+T89+Tank) should preferably be in the first fleet. You can feel free to substitute ships depending on the amount of anti-installation equips you have, but prioritise historical TCI ships in the escort.

    Nelson
    , Warspite or another Euro/US BB, 2 standard CVs (preferably Saratoga CVB form and Intrepid), 1 CA(V), preferably Zara, Commandant Teste and Nisshin or 2 anti-installation DD/CLs
    Prinz Eugen
    , Giuseppe Garibaldi/Abruzzi or 4 slot CL or luckmodded Abukuma K2 or other TCI CL, 1 CLT or another historical TCI DD, Jervis, Fletcher/Johnston or another utility/TCI DD. If you got Grecale, you can also use her as a TCI DD.

    Sample Fleet (Nelson touch at boss)
    Main Fleet: Nelson, Zara, Warspite, Saratoga CVB, Commandant Teste, Intrepid
    Escort Fleet: Yura, Nisshin, Johnston, Kitakami, Prinz Eugen TCI, Jervis


    My actual locks for reference
    [+] Spoiler

    E1
    Richelieu, Ryuujou, Shouhou, Naka, Isokaze B, Tanikaze D, Akebono, Sazanami, Suzukaze, I-400

    E2

    Part 1: Yuugumo, Tone, Mikuma, Satsuki, Fumizuki, Kawakaze, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Fletcher, Jervis (dupe), Arashio, Kako, Myoukou
    Part 2: Ark Royal, Kirishima, Hiei, Tone, Mikuma, Tama, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Shigure, Fletcher, Ooi, Myoukou, Jervis (dupe)

    E3

    Part 1: Nelson, Suzuya CAV, Roma, Commandant Teste, Zara, Chitose CVL, Pola, Kitakami, Johnston, Asashio K2D, Yura, Nisshin
    Part 2: Nelson, Zara, Warspite, Saratoga CVB, Commandant Teste, Intrepid, Yura, Nisshin, Johnston, Kitakami, Prinz Eugen, Jervis
    Other ships locked: Michishio, Akagi K2

    (almost) made it through with only one dupe used, but hey the dupe wants her sister back too!


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    Last edited by NanashiYoukai; 09-07-2019 at 06:14 AM.
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    @NanashiYoukai: Again, much appreciated. Close to starting E-1. If you have a moment, do you have any initial thoughts on farming when it comes to the new ships? Have no idea as to what farming would be like for Mikura and Grecale, but initial impression is that I'm going to have to just try to get them post clear farming on Hard since prior to clear on Casual doesn't seem all that feasible.


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    @goesto11 Yes, don't bother with Casual farming at all. E1 is pretty simple and cheap to get S ranks on Hard and there's a possibility to get Mikura in E2 Part 1, while Grecale is also a drop in E3 Part 2 (got her from there myself). If worse comes to worse, E2 Hard can be farmed post-clear for Grecale with Friend Fleet's help (still no ETA, but devs did promise it).


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    @NanashiYoukai Thanks as well. This is helpful. :)

    Oh yeah, is it worth stamping Nelson for boilers in E2 then?



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    @firehawk12

    You meant Nelson in E3, right?

    It's possible to go without her in Part 1, but you need 2 FBB, and ideally Euro/US ship for some bonus damage. You can use Iowa since US ships get a bonus in E3 (but not E2). The reason for using Nelson Touch on the pre-boss is to help with pass rate against CVH (this was 211's idea, it's a good idea). For Part 2, speed doesn't matter, so you don't need the hole to help with upspeeding.

    As to whether Nelson is worth holepunching in a general sense, she's definitely one of the better choice since she is used nearly every event due to her special attack. She can also do a special AACI (weak, but better than nothing in a desperation situation) if equipped with the 16in+FCR and Pom-Pom in the slot.


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    @NanashiYoukai Sorry yeah! E3. I have enough of the other BBs to be able cover it so I may just do that, but if you use an up-speed Nelson, you'd be giving up two of her slots for the boilers wouldn't you?



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    @firehawk12

    Yes, but due to how easy the boss is to beat in E3 Part 1 (they can be killed by closing torps from your anti-installation-equipped ships), it's not a huge loss. Pass rate is more of a issue since the pre-boss CVH node is quite fierce (CVH, gold Ru, Wo Kai and gold Tsu). Anyway it worked for 211 and I copied it and it works too, but if you don't want to spend RE you don't have to, just use another fast BB.


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    E1 Hard cleared!

    Notable drops: Richelieu, Teste, Mikura

    Recommended to use both node and boss supports for LD, and if you're using the sub-tank strategy. You can drop the node support if you go with 2 CVL instead of 1 CVL 1 SS.



    Fleet


    LBAS - send all to boss node


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