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    @Makikaki Yes, but with her 40 base luck there is really no reason to use her for DA.


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    @211303

    Thought so, was only going for consistency over rng; would KTKM with TCI be better with the node bonus or would she still hit the damage cap with DA?
    Got to admit, I don't know how exactly the damage bonus works if the boss has 355 armor.


    Last edited by Makikaki; 12-13-2019 at 10:42 AM. Reason: typo

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    @Makikaki Easiest way to do it is to boot up your KC3, setup your ship with the corresponding equipment and check the displayed attack power at night. KC3 will handle the cap calculation for you in this step as this is the last bit that is pre-cap. Noted that the value doesn't include night scout, but it is good enough as an estimate.

    You can then times the historical bonus of that ship (in ktkm's case x1.25 before debuff). Historical bonus are all post-cap so a simple multiplication of the above value is all you need.

    Compare that to the upper and lower armor of the boss to see how likely you are going to pen (x0.7 and x1.3 of armor respectively).

    In general I don't recommend TCI CLT for two reasons. 1) the gain is too small for the reduced triggering rate given that DA CLT is already very close to soft cap., and 2) you would want some DA in fleet for better passing rate at NB node.


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    @211303

    Thanks for the info, I only have 3 historical TCI DDs after checking everything; had to make some adjustments accordingly.

    Having no AV or 4 radars you can also route to node F during TP phase.


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    E6 guide should be done for now

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    @Makikaki hmm, in that case nisshin over kinu? I honestly only offrouted once for the whole p1, so I didn't think too much about it.


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    @211303 I'm a bit confused on what ships and equipment to use (or more correctly, to save up).

    Planning to do E5 on Medium and E6 on Hard (may give up and do on medium because I'm going to travel soon and might not be able to wait for FFs).

    So of the DDs listed on the ship lock guide, I have:
    Yuudachi: Lv146, 52 Luck, 37HP
    Yukikaze: Lv98, 60 Luck
    Fletcher: Lv95, 40 Luck
    Ayanami: Lv132, 52 Luck
    Akatsuki: Lv98, 15 Luck, 55k experience until 99
    Shigure: Lv98, 50 Luck

    Luck modded luck values shown in bold.

    Other luck modded, non-historic, still unlocked DD (note that I have not attempted E5 yet):
    Kagerou: Lv 124, 56 Luck
    Tashkent: Lv 125, 49 Luck
    Johnston: Lv 97, 48 Luck
    Kasumi: Lv 129, 46 Luck


    ABKM is luck modded (49 Luck).
    CAs: Myoukou Lv119/53 Luck, Maya Lv130/51 Luck, Prinz Lv98/48 Luck (may ring soon)

    I also have 3 sets / 24-luck worth of Maruyus standing by for the event, but that doesn't seem to be enough to bring
    Akatsuki/Shiratsuyu(Lv96)/Murasame(Lv97) to 40+ luck.
    Probably spend a set on Fletcher?

    Looks like Shigure has good bonuses for E6 and that I'm not doing E5 on Hard, I should use her in E6?

    Actually what is meant by "enough TCI"?
    Typically I'd consider having Yuudachi and Ayanami luck modded is enough, but it seems that in this case they are going DA instead?
    In that case the only luck modded historic TCI ship for me would be Fletcher (by feeding her a set of Maruyus)

    I'm considering to use luck-modded Kagerou for E5, so Shigure can take E6 with much higher multipliers.
    As @friggo mention here for E5M, "Shigure wasn't even necessarily needed".


    Any advice on the roster to maximize probability of clearing E6H w/o FFs?

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    Reading on a bit more, seems like luckmodded Yuudachi is better than Shigure in E6, and that there isn't a need to put both Yuudachi and Shigure in..
    Which means I can safely put Shigure in E5 instead...


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    @kazenorin For E6, you can go with ayanami+poi+yukikaze for your 3DD, and pudding for your CA since you locked your Kinugasa. Fletcher can be on standby, although you probably wouldn't use her for TCI. Wouldn't advise you to use your mole yet as well.

    For E5M, Hatsushimo, Myoukou and a CLT should be all you need, but you probably don't need Shigure in E6 either, so up to you.

    Go with TCI whenever possible in E6. Most clears I have seen are snipe with at least 3 if not more targets left. The thing is it is really hard for your main fleet to reduce enough target, so having 4-5 targets when entering night battle is very, very common. I would also say that passing rate is very low once you enter LD and touch at boss node, so use of goddess is highly recommended on ships prone to taiha, in order to have more tries with a given resources. I personally give my searchlight carrier, the two CA in main fleet and Akitsushima goddess for LD. BB doesn't need them as you are pretty much done for if they taiha preboss anyway, while escort fleet should be relatively safe with the protection of searchlight and overkill, and the chuha they suffer can be repaired with the repair node. Other usual hard mode stuff like sparkle and double support are of cos needed as well.

    That's probably about it for clearing without FF. Can't say I really recommend it in terms of efficiency, but if you want a challenge you can always try.


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    @211303 Thanks!

    Kinugasa is not locked, so probably use her here instead of Prinz.
    Let's see how it would turn out


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    @211303

    Only offrouted once - I'm halfway over TP phase so far, although I used Tama instead of Kinu; and yes, I'm using Nisshin over a DD after my first offroute.



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    Woah that difficulty spike.. 3 hours in, 15 sorties, I'm still a forth away from clearing the TP phase... That passing rate is just awful, despite sending fully sparkled node supports.

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    Ended up taking 19 sorties, 16614/15130/5271/1929 and 48 buckets to clear the TP phase...


    Last edited by kazenorin; 12-15-2019 at 02:32 AM.
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