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    Nah I think it's a justified fear, and it's been happening to WoWs to some degree. Cruisers used to be the "utility" class, but since then a whole line of DDs has been given hydro, one DD got radar, a BB as well (and more incoming it seems)... There's been quite a bit of utility creep against cruisers, although to be fair quite a few cruisers have access to smoke as well now.





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    @Mobius I wouldn't say utility creep is a problem unless it doesn't push fun and satisfying mechanics. Unfortunately, smoke is still annoying to deal with and situationally broken, while radar is still a blunt instrument. Further proliferation of these kinds of things for the sake of "variety" is definitely not a good thing.

    I hate to break it to you, but if these ships turn out how I think, they are meant to be dedicated snipers with or without radar given their arrangement, armaments and armor schemes.


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    I find it strange they're not putting nelson at tier 7, that's where the other Big Seven ships are.

    Still, i'm obviously very interested in this line, but will hold back my enthusiasm for when more info is forthcoming



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    @Lord Harrab
    Thing is, you basically have two ships that would better be at T7, Nelson and KGV. KGV and her ten 14 inch guns can't be pushed to T8, even with its good armour. At that Tier, everyone has at least 15 inch guns and good protection, KGV would be a very big cruiser killer. On the other hand, Nelson and her 16inch gusn can punch at T8, but her slow speed, original artillery layout, and huge superstructure would probably make her frustrating to play.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyan_TTK View Post
    On the other hand, Nelson and her 16inch gusn can punch at T8, but her slow speed, original artillery layout, and huge superstructure would probably make her frustrating to play.
    Her 16inch guns also were the worst of the Big 7s, so they wouldn't be able to punch that much at T8 either. T7 is really the only place for her.





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    Some pretty big news regarding the tiering: According to SEA group, King George V will actually be Tier 8 and will have ten 15 inches guns on her second hull (!). Nelson will be Tier 7. Their preliminary stats have been leaked as well:
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    Their heal will be able to heal 60% of non citadel damage.





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    @Mobius Seems we may both have our cake with the shells eh.

    You guys can probably tell whether these ships are in Asia ST given how talkative I am. You can't leak what you don't know! Though I will still avoid directly commenting on any leak from elsewhere.


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    @DLRevan Yep, although I fear it might be a bit too much given their other advantages.


    Last edited by Mobius; 06-08-2017 at 08:56 AM.



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    Hehe.....we'll see.....but I think I will like this line quite a bit.

    I've been in a somewhat disturbed mood since finishing the USN BB line, I have been satisfied with the performance of the T8-10 ships (unlike seemingly every other USN BB advocate), but not the playstyle. I'd like to "have fun" again.


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    I'm glad that I'll never see the T9-10 ships in my games unless I'm playing Lo Yang/Kiev.

    More AA than Nepture/Minotaur and stupid high HE DPS.


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