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    Ship Discussion: Graf Zeppelin

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    Lost it @T8. The amount of BS buff that WG is going to have to give to this ship to make it competitive at T8 is going to be hilarious... Like this for instance:
    Hangar Capacity: 25-47-0
    GZ had a hangar capacity of 43 aircraft. Thank god WG said they tried to make premiums as close to their IRL specs as possible.





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    @Mobius I mean, 5x3 TBs is pretty good compensation too.


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    @Emerald Acid On planes that were known for being DBs too. Looks like this ship is going to be infused with BS wehraboo magic again.





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    Graf's mere presence is a tribute to the wehraboos.

    More to the point, I'm not surprised by her air group's composition. The antique Carriers at War game already had Graf Zeppelin in game, with Me-109T as fighter-bombers and Stukas as torpedo planes, iirc.

    I'd like to point out that the Kriegsmarine built Graf with the IJN and Akagi as model to follow, and for the IJN, the torpedo was the main carrier plane weapon, not the dive bomber. Besides, the trusty Type 99's bomb wasn't powerful enough to sink heavy warships.

    If I had a gripe, it's for using the B designation for the Stuka
    On 18 August 1937, the RLM decided to introduce the Ju 87 Tr(C). The Ju 87 C was intended to be a dive and torpedo bomber for the Kriegsmarine. The type was ordered into prototype production and available for testing in January 1938. Testing was given just two months and was to begin in February and end in April 1938. The prototype V10 was to be a fixed wing test aircraft, while the following V11 would be modified with folding wings. The prototypes were Ju 87 B-0 airframes powered by Jumo 211 A engines. Owing to delays, the V10 was not completed until March 1938. It first flew on 17 March and was designated Ju 87 C-1. On 12 May, the V11 also flew for the first time. By 15 December 1939, 915 arrested landings on dry land had been made. It was found that the arresting gear winch was too weak and had to be replaced. Tests showed the average braking distance was 20–35 metres (66–115 ft). The Ju 87 V11 was designated C-0 on 8 October 1938. It was fitted out with standard Ju 87 C-0 equipment and better wing-folding mechanisms. The "carrier Stuka" was to be built at the Weserflug Company's Lemwerder plant between April and July 1940.

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    The D-4 designation applied to a prototype torpedo-bomber version, which could carry a 750–905 kg (1,653–1,995 lb) aerial torpedo on a PVC 1006 B rack - this setup would have had the capacity to carry the Luftorpedo LT 850, the German version of the well-proven Japanese Type 91 aerial torpedo of some 848 kg (1,870 lb). The D-4 was to be converted from D-3 airframes and, in place of the carrier-specific Ju 87C series designs, operated from the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin.



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    RIP my hopes that SEA group got the tier wrong.
    Seriously though, Bf109E and Stukas being put on the same level as Corsairs, Hellcats, A6M5s, Shidens, Tenzans and Avengers. Fucking lol.





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    I hope HMS Ark Royal will be at least t8 too with T8 Swordfishes and Fairey Fulmars!



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    @Mobius Having 15 TBs at once with a shorter arming time (meaning they can be dropped closer) helps.


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    Lexington is so much of a joke, which is funny as she is giving way to a bullshit ship. The notion of 12-15 torpedo bombers is acceptable it seems, except for USN CVs. The hangar capacity inflation is another slap in the face.



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    Shoukaku and Lex have 72 planes each to Zep's 67. It just seems like more due to not spending any on Dive Bombers.

    Unless yu're referring to her planned historical loadout, in which case it was pretty much required to do for her to not be complete garbage.


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    Huh why tier 8 i wonder.

    Quote Originally Posted by M.A.Mitscher View Post
    Lexington is so much of a joke, which is funny as she is giving way to a bullshit ship. The notion of 12-15 torpedo bombers is acceptable it seems, except for USN CVs. The hangar capacity inflation is another slap in the face.
    Indeed, WG hate USN Cvs it seems, or have the results from the beta lodged in their head that USN torp bombers are a no-go since they deleted ships with their manual drops, while ignoring the fact that's what the IJN ones do anyway and it gets worse at higher tiers.

    Graf getting so many torp bombers will mean she can turn a section of water into torpedo soup.



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